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Prime Lunchtime with Brian Johnson, City Manager



In this episode of Prime Lunchtime, Rico and City Manager, Brian Johnson, discuss the upcoming Smart City Expo and the role that Peachtree Corners will contribute. Brian gives some sneak peeks into the incredible technology that will be demonstrated and accessible during the event, and its implications for the future of smart cities all over the world. Additionally, they discuss developments around the city such as the finishing of the roundabout, new apartment developments at the river corridor, Willie Degel’s new Uncle Jack’s Meathouse, and more.

Uncle Jacks Meathouse elevation plans


Smart City Expo Atlanta: https://smartcityexpoatlanta.com/

Podcast Transcript

Rico [01:02 ]: Hey guys, this is Rico Figliolini, host of Peachtree Corners Life, and this is podcast with Brian Johnson is Prime Lunchtime with City Manager.

Brian [01:11 ]: How are you?

Rico [01:12 ]: Good. Just came off another podcast this morning – a videochat with Aarti Tandon, the CEO of the Smart City Expo, which was eye-opening, the stuff that’s going on with the exhibit. 250 speakers, tracks they have, the stuff that we’re doing that’s part of that all. I just want to, before we get there – we are at the Atlanta Tech Park podcast studios, and they’re a sponsor of our show. I want to say thank you to them. It’s a great podcast studio here in Technology Park in the city of Peachtree Corners. And also to say thank you to GMC Primary Care, Gwinnett Medical. They are a sponsor of the family podcasts that I do, including Capitalist Sage with Karl Barham, and I appreciate you guys and thank you for being part of this. So let’s get into what’s going on cause the road’s being built. The pavement’s down. Time is running towards the September 11th date, so tell us what’s going on, Brian, with this whole autonomous vehicle Curiosity Lab at Peachtree Corners.

Brian [02:21 ]: Well, if you’ve been in Tech Park the last couple days, couple weeks, you would notice that, yeah, there’s something going on. So two weeks from yesterday will be our grand opening and ribbon cutting of Curiosity Lab. The, I guess, most visually appealing and easy aspect of Curiosity would be the autonomous vehicle test track, which is being put in on the – on a 1.5 mile section of Technology Park. And right now, as we were driving over here, they’re starting to stripe the lanes, putting all the flexible bollards to separate the, you know, autonomous vehicle, the test and demo lanes from the two inside lanes for the motor and public to use, because, you know, we still have 7500 jobs that are just in Tech Park and about 1000 people are residing here inside of Tech Park. So, we’ve got a lot of people who use it, which is what makes it unique, and yes we are almost at the point where we can cut the ribbon, say, ‘Alright, it’s time to fire this thing up’.

Rico [03:35 ]: Is the control room part of that, too?

Brian [03:37 ]: It is. So, we’ve got this 1.5 mile liner laboratory. Living linear laboratory. And of course, again, you know, you’ve got this test track in the roadway, but also, you’ve got a lot – all the technology infrastructure that is necessary to do any testing with it, mobility for the Smart City space. By that, I mean, it’s not gonna be just about autonomous vehicles – there’s going to be a lot of other testing, things like, in the mobility space for instance, things like connected vehicles. Testing the vehicles’ ability to communicate with, say, light poles, traffic signals, other vehicles, cyclists, pedestrians, a lot of testing in there. There’s testing and everything from infotainment systems to Smart City testing of, you know, digital message boards, street lights to reflectors in the road that change color if there’s hazards up ahead. There’s cybersecurity testing that you can do here because we’re creating the right of way of the future. You know, a street that everything in the street can communicate with each other. The cars can talk to each other, to the pedestrian, the cyclists, the light poles and when you do that, you create all those breach points for somebody to use, to hack, and so there’s some interest some companies are coming in here to test on ways to either protect agains that breach or try to find weaknesses in the system. So, I mean, you know, the sky’s the limit, but it’s not just about mobility. It’s about the whole thing.

Rico [05:23 ]: That’s interesting. Apple this way – Apple is a closed circuit, right? Because this way, there’s only one breach you can have through this system.

Brian [05:29 ]: And actually, to that point, when you talked about the network operations here, all that technology that we’re putting in is on one fiber network. A closed system. Hargray fiber is providing the backbone to this. All this technology including the, you know, the macro and the mini macro, 5G antennas that are part of this. And that’s put in are through fiber networks that’s closed, so it’s not part of the city’s greater fiber system so we can kind of control it in a real world. You know, I was just talking about cybersecurity in a testing component, but we’re gonna have real world data being created, and we don’t want things like, you know, industrial espionage where some auto company steals data from another one. Or we don’t want data to be corrupted, we don’t want people to be able to, you know, begin to hack into the traffic signal that we’re putting in and change the light when it’s not supposed to be. I mean, so, we have a higher degree of controllability and in an inherently uncontrollable environment.

Rico [06:41 ]: Yeah. Do you, do you get any demand or require from developers that come in the same type of – type of security? Because I mean, apps work within that could be a breach point also right?

Brian [06:55 ]: They can. So most of what we’re doing right now is – they’re bringing their devices, but they’re still having to use our software in our system to do it. And so that allows us to be able to make statements about the data created from this, such that we can say we will be in a position where we can respect or honor a company’s proprietary concerns if they come in and they say, ‘Hey for this particular test, we don’t want it to be public.’ We’re – and be in a position where we control that, say ‘Sure’. Conversely, we’ll be in a position where we’re sharing this data and letting others have it. Because it’s creating – there’s no better data to get compiled – the data that’s created in the real world because, inherently, as humans, we do all sorts of things that are unique, and so the data collected in a controlled environment is only so useful. And again, that’s one of the many reasons why this is, you know, a unique asset because we’re not a closed course, we’re a living laboratory. So we took a public street that we’re keeping public, and we’re also allowing testing within that in a safe, you know, manageable manner.

Rico [08:16 ]: Are you going to – so September 11th is the day – is the first day of the Smart City Expo Atlanta. And we have the – and probably the only – offsite demo that’s being done. So they’re gonna bus in attendees that are going to be coming to that. Are you – what demonstrative aspects will we have?

Brian [08:39 ]: So, we’re kind of combining two things. You know, it is the grand opening and ribbon cutting. So at the beginning of it, we’re gonna have a short, little, kind of grand opening. You know, run of show. You are talking about, we’re going to have the Lieutenant Governor speak, we’re gonna have – and the mayor. And we’re gonna have the President of Sprint speak, and the executive vice president for Georgia Power. Those are the two companies, corporate entities, that are gonna have a short role in that because, as companies, they’ve invested in Curiosity Lab, and it’s going to be – it is their laboratory also. So they’re partners with us, but partners in the sense of – they’re gonna be using the lab on an ongoing basis, because it’s kind of like, to a degree, their lab also. Georgia Power’s doing Smart City testing and demo, and of course Sprint’s doing 5G utilization and testing. So, when we get done with that, we’re gonna have a ribbon-cutting. The ribbon is going to be flown up the track by drones. And so the drones will come up to the dignitaries that are gonna be standing there to cut the ribbon, and they will hover while the ribbon is cut.

Rico [09:57 ]: Oh that’s cool.

Brian [10:00 ]: So then, we’re gonna transition from there into – into a couple of active demos. And by that, I mean, they’re demos that can be done in front of the crowd. In front of the tents and the chairs that are set up underneath it. And there’ll be three types. One will be a fully autonomous show. And it’s built by local motors – it’s called Ollie. So it is a driverless shuttle, and we’re gonna get a couple of, you know, the dignitaries to get on the shuttle with the CEO of Local Motors. It’s gonna go around the parking lot in front of City Hall, the parking lot in between the track and in front of City Hall. And so, you’ll be able to see how that technology works, because again, there’s nobody – there’s no steering wheel in it, there’s nobody driving it – it’s fully autonomous. So we’ll have a demonstration of that. We’ll then do a demonstration of an autonomous drone delivering a package. And so we’ll have a drone bring in a package, and it’ll demonstrate how it’ll get to a delivery box. And hover and drop down and drop that box – drop the package into the delivery box. And then we’re gonna have a demo there, and the last demo with everyone sitting there will be a tele-operated e-scooter. By tele-operated means – we al lknow the e-scooter. This company makes essentially training wheels to go on an e-scooter and a camera on the front, and the e-scooter can be activated and driven by a human in a remote location. And you know, we’ve talked about this before – we’ve had tele-operated 18-wheeler, but they can do this with an e-scooter such that they can reposition e-scooters, which is one of the problems that are out there right now, is people leave them wherever.

Rico [11:59 ]: Yeah. Well they’re banning them, as far as making any more.

Brian [12:02 ]: That’s right. There’s no additional – yep. And so they’re controversial because often times it’s the typical, this is why we can’t have nice things because a few people ruin it for everybody else. And so people are kind of being careless with driving them and also leaving them and, you know.

Rico [12:21 ]: So we might see – 

Brian [12:23 ]: You’re gonna see a scooter driving down the sidewalk with nobody on it. And so those are the three – those are some of the tech that you’re gonna actually – the attendees are actually gonna be able to see in front of them. Not on a video, not reading about it – we’re actually going to see it. And then we have a bunch of other stuff. So at that point, we’ll basically tell everybody that the formal part is done, and then we’ve got a bunch of other demos. We’ve got a number of cars – KIA is bringing up their concept car – the Habanero. It’s a – it’s an advanced car that’s not in production yet. They’re gonna bring up the Telluride and Stinger also, which are pretty advanced but they are commercially available. We’ve got everything from soft bank robotics, and Sprint has some robots that are gonna be brought out. Then we’ve got autonomous lawn mowers – somebody called Green Seeds is going to bring out those. So then you can go to the different booths and you can – you know, they’ve got another robot that has a follower behavior. In other words, it can link it to a person to follow, and it’ll follow that person even through a crowd, where it knows how to avoid people but still keep its eye on the person. They use micropositioning. So it positions itself down to the, you know, centimeter, millimeter, so you can really navigate complicated environments because its GPS location is so accurate.

Rico [14:13 ]: So that’s almost like it will be an assistant. Almost like Alexa following you.

Brian [14:17 ]: That’s right. But even in complicated environments. SO those are the demos that are being set up which you can walk up to it and they’ll show you.

Rico [14:25 ]: Wow. A lot of interesting – 

Brian [14:27 ]: And we’ve got a lot of interesting stuff that’s not quite the edge of technology, but there’s a company called Wreath that’s coming and showing off their mobile kitchen. In which their concept is to take a shipping container and put a kitchen in it, and put it at a location, and it’s not for use by anybody to walk up and order. It’s all for the food delivery like Uber Eats. And these kitchens can cook, you know. I think I’ve seen as many as five different menus from known restaurants. And you can, like, order from a Chili’s menu or an Applebee’s menu or an iHop menu – whatever, and it can do all of those. But then it’s delivered through one of the delivery. So, you know, that’s not necessarily what you necessarily think about just cutting mobility, but it’s unique and so we’re gonna have a lot of stuff from people. Let’s see – a lot of people are interested. We’ve – we at least have seven members of the consulate corps of Atlanta. You know, countries that have consulates in the metro-land area. The consul generals from those consulates are gonna be coming up because they’re interested in the space. Or there’s companies from these countries that are interested.

Rico [15:54 ]: So you’ll have your own little exhibit going on.

Brian [15:56 ]: Yes. There’ll be kind of an exhibition both inside and outside. Inside City Hall we’ve got some of our multi-use space that will be set up for some of these companies to kind of show off their stuff. And outside there’ll be some stuff, too. And so, yeah. It’s gonna be – and that’s the kickoff, and then everybody who’s part of the conference will go down, and at 1:00 it starts down at the Georgia World Congress Center. And we’ll have space in the exhibition hall, and we’re gonna show off the mini model we had made. It will be for the event. So – 

Rico [16:36 ]: And you have a sign that says – the signage at the beginning at 141 and Technology parkway is gonna – 

Brian [16:46 ]: Yes. So you know – part of the – now, you know, we’re – I would have loved to have about 45-60 more days to finish everything before the event. We didn’t have a choice. We didn’t pick the dates. You know, of course, I don’t know if necessarily the city of Atlanta or the metro area that was part of bidding to get this conference – I don’t know if they necessarily had any say int he dates. But when it was announced that there was gonna be a Smart City conference here, we knew we had an asset that was unique, and they said yes to our partner. A little earlier than I would like, so there’s gonna be parts of the track that are not complete. Like some of the signage. But we are trying to start with the signage, the gateway signage at Tech Park 141. And then bring it up just past City Hall and make sure that’s all done. Because that’s how most of the people will drive in. And so they’ll be able to see that card, and then we’ll continue with the rest of it.

Rico [17:49 ]: It’s exciting to get that, I’m sure. I know from what Aarti was telling me from the earlier podcast that there’s so much going on at the Expo that I can’t wait to visit that, to see that. It’s a lot. And especially I’m sure even the after-hours and that stuff.

Brian [18:03 ]: Yes. There’s a number of after-hours. Because you’ve got some of these companies that are coming in for this – a lot of them are from countries outside of North America, and the reason they’re interested is because it’s an opportunity. This is the first Smart City Expo in North America.

Rico [18:22 ]: In the US for sure, because I think Mexico –

Brian [18:25 ]: Oh did? Okay, so it’s the US. And so, it’s, you know, it’s a unique opportunity for companies who are not based here to have a presence here to show off what they’re doing to get into this market. And so there’s a lot of after hour stuff of companies having some people come in and do some special things.

Rico [18:42 ]: That’ll be interesting. There’s also a lot of CIOs – Chief Information Officers – 

Brian [18:47 ]: And CTOs.

Rico [18:49 ]: Yeah, CTOs from all the cities coming in, so that’ll be fun. I mean, people who couldn’t get to Barcelona coming to Atlanta instead because it’s within their budget.

Brian [19:00 ]: Because, yeah. I’m speaking at the conference on Friday, so you know, there’s a lot of interesting panel discussions. Classes on all sorts of stuff. So yeah, on one with the city manager of Carlsbad, California. Doing some interesting things with 5G. 

Rico [19:19 ]: So you get to talk to him too, maybe.

Brian [19:23 ]: I mean, yeah. We’re always interested in – delegation from the city of San Diego came yesterday to see what we were doing cause they’re doing some stuff. But, you know, we’re always learning from each other. But I think it’s fair to say that what we’re creating here, if you consider all the unique aspects has not been created anywhere in the world. Because, first, we’re a living lab, so we’re not competing with the closed laboratories or courses. But we have 5G now. This building has 5G right now. So, and the others will catch up soon, but we have it right now. We’re not charging for the use of the facility. So it’s not a pay to play. We are not requiring intellectual property rights of any sort on anything that’s been created out of testing here. We’re respecting times where somebody has proprietary information and they want upwards – in some cases if you do it on public anything, it’s all public regardless. And then, the last two things that make us really unique beyond what I just said is – there’s only one governmental entity that you have to deal with. A lot of – you’ve got county, state, feds, you know – even the – Georgia has a rural interstate version that’s called the Reg. You know, 18 mile section of I-85 from the Alabama state line to West Point, Georgia. But everything they do, they have to get permission from Georgia GOT and the federal highway. because it’s not their roadway. So we are the single entity, so we can move quick. We can say yes. You know, we can cut up the road and put in, you know, testing panels if we want them. We can do whatever we want because it’s our road. and then the last thing, which I think is also really makes us unique is – cities throughout the country have to insure their roadway. You know, general liability insurance for roadway. Because stuff happens – sometimes, a city’s gotta defend itself. In some cases, the city has some culpability. It could be that something happened to the road. There’s a sinkhole and the car goes in, and we let it. So whatever, we’ve got to have liability coverage. What you don’t see is, when you have a public street, I can’t limit access to it. I have an insurer, no insurance company will insure that public street when you include testing of advanced technologies. As soon as you try to do that, they’re like, ‘woah, woah, woah, no no no. We’re not going to want that.’ We got our insurance. We have insurance, and we got it through *insurance company*. That’ll, you know, are known for being in a position to insure basically anybody. And when they tell us, aside from us having never heard of any city doing this, when we were talking to the carriers about what they’re all like, ‘no, no, no.’ And a lot of reason is – because of the drive – when there was a cybersecurity component to it. They don’t like to have to insure any data created from use of this public. And so that was one. But the main one was, the advanced vehicle testing. Especially when you got it to the drivers. Because, about 98.7% of automobile accidents are driver error. There’s some driver or there’s some component – statistically, so actuaries can handle that because they have, you know, a century of historical data to run basics on. When you remove a component that is 99% at fault from the equation, they get real uncomfortable. Like, ‘Okay, wait a second. How do we even forecast what our exposure here is? Because who’s going to be to blame?’

Rico [24:00 ]: Because they don’t have history.

Brian [24:03 ]: Correct! Is it going to be the OM that made the vehicle. Is it going to be the software in the vehicle? Is it going to be the components that comprise it? Is it gonna be the wireless signal that they’re using to run – I mean who’s to blame? And so Lloyd stepped up and said, based on, you know, the environment we’ve created, the, you know, some of the safety measures we took to make, you know, our living lab to be – to have a higher degree of controllability that you normally see with this kind of testing. They said yes – we will insure it. So we are – again, I can’t. I’m not sure anybody else has coverage over a public street that includes that. So any of the insurance carriers that we talked to in the US – we’re US based – would say, ‘We’ll insure the city. We’re gonna carve that 1.5 miles out.” But we found one that did – 

Rico [25:03 ]: It’s – that’s interesting. I mean, you – the city’s in a position to be able to actually create legislation that can take care of that to a degree. Within city limits. To say, you can have autonomous vehicles. These are the parameters. Of course, those laws could be tested at some point, right?

Brian [25:24 ]: Oh, they always are.

Rico [25:27 ]: But this is a great opportunity for a city that’s doing this in a living environment to also begin investigating, ‘How can we legislate this in our city?’

Brian [25:38 ]: Well, so there’s a component of all of this. These companies are interested in being a part of something that’s going to create the new normal in that area. In the insurance industry, there’s a degree of that we got. The company’s like, ‘Look, we’ll do this. Here’s our -‘ But we’re also interested in watching how this plays out. Because, you know, I think they’re seeing the long term play. Which is – look, every city’s gonna have this at some point. There’s gonna be driverless and human-driven on the public road at the same time at some point. So you gotta get in at some point. Like, look – the city, which has created this really easy environment for us to get invovled in, has done this really unique thing. Why not now? Let’s go ahead and get in on this. So there’s a degree of that. You know, the other thing too is, the state of Georgia – whether many of those involved knew it or not, created a very friendly environment for the testing autonomous vehicles. Because there – most states require there to be a human in the vehicle even if it’s driverless. But Georgia is one that does not. Now, it does require, if it’s driverless, if something goes wrong, it’s got the operator of the vehicle has got to be able to take control of the vehicle. That could either be a tele-operated human, or like a kill switch. Where it can just shut it down and stop it, and you can go out to the thing and take it over. A lot of states do not.

Rico [27:16 ]: Right, and that legislation just passed.

Brian [27:19 ]: It was, just a couple of years ago. So we’re a very friendly state when it comes to the testing in this. So, the city, being in the Georgia municipality, has benefitted from that foresight. So there were some people who thought of that a couple years ago. Maybe there were some legislators who didn’t realize what they were doing, but we put ourselves to a point where I think we can really attract companies that are in this space because the state’s kind of friendly to it. We’ve got a city that’s friendly to it. A city that’s controlling the entire right of way to this. It’s easy – there’s not a lot of bureaucratic hurdles. So, given the amount of partners we have, the amount of interest, I don’t really have to say this. It’s selling itself.

Rico [28:03 ]: Oh, for sure. I gotta believe. And things with this expo and the exposure there, we could probably have the news show up. Are you excited by any particular exhibit or company showing there that you’ve heard of that you got to see? That you got to visit for the expo?

Brian [28:24 ]: Well, you know, no. Only because all of the ones that I was excited are actually coming up to our place. So there’s some that we’ve got some meetings, and afterwards we’re gonna talk. I’m sure there’s some that I don’t know of yet, but all the ones that we were interested – you know, we’re not necessarily shy when it comes to companies doing something where – if they don’t know about us, let’s send them some stuff. Usually that’s enough for them to say, ‘Um yeah, we would like to come out and look or talk and so’. Most of those that are coming in and inviting up – yeah.

Rico [29:02 ]: I can’t wait. September 11th, 12th and 13th. And the morning of the 11th we’ll be here. That’s great. So that’s happening. It’s gonna be for the next two years, so we may go back.

Brian [29:15 ]: For the Smart City Expo.

Rico [29:17 ]: So that’s the biggest thing to talk about.

Brian [29:24 ]: Well right now, like you said, the city is still running.

Rico [29:27 ]: There’s several things to talk about also – other things that are happening. The – I guess, let’s go down the list a little bit. This way people can be informed a little bit. The roundabout is going to be finished at some point.

Brian [29:41 ]: In the next 72 hours, maybe? I mean, for the traffic stuff that – it’s all the paving stuff.

Rico [29:50 ]: So it’s raised a little bit? Because that center part looked a little hard to me.

Brian [29:54 ]: Well, inside of the median still have work. We’ve gotta fill some of them in, we’ve gotta do some stuff. But I’m talking about, when it comes to the traffic. Cause you know, inside of the curbs that are poured, that’ll not affect traffic. but the striping, the paving’s done, the curbs are all in, the striping’s gonna be happening, maybe happening right now. Sometimes, you know, the weather – I don’t know if they’re doing that at night either. But anyway, so it’ll only be inside filling in those things, you know, go from there. Kind of the last accouturements at the end to make it pretty. And the lines.

Rico [30:37 ]: And the lines – people are a little confused, do they have to get on the lane – there’s actually two lanes.

Brian [30:45 ]: Well, yes. Because if you need to go more than halfway around, you would stay on the inner lane until you get to – but yeah, the striping will handle that. That’ll make it so it’s not so confusing.

Rico [30:58 ]: That’s what I was thinking. But some people just can’t get it straight. City council handled a few things. Let’s just go into that a little bit. I know, well, at least to let people know. I know Tipsy Nail Salon finally got their alcoholic beverage license approved, I think?

Brian [31:13 ]: They did. Now theirs is for the, um, what is it called? 

Rico [31:19 ]: The retail packaging.

Brian [31:22 ]: Yeah. So that one – yeah, retail package in one license. So that’s the one where you can – under that permit is where you can have wine tasting or – it limits the amount you can drink in a time period. Because it’s kind of like for, you know, like a wine store has. You can taste wine. It’s a limit so you can’t go in there and taste so long.

Rico [31:50 ]: But they can have sort of a happy hour, when you go and get your nails done.

Brian [31:54 ]: Yes. So while you’re there – but again, state law sets how much alcohol you can have in periods of time. And they apply to that yes, they can qualify for that.

Rico [32:05 ]: Okay, so, and then, I believe the mechanics bill – the town has developed on that – there was a second read of consideration on that?

Brian [32:13 ]: But the applicant pulled. The applicant pulled because there were some environmental, I guess challenges that required them to adjust the site plan. Actually, they’re making the project a little bit smaller because it was – it was cost-prohibitive for them to get into certain wetlands over there. So I think they’re pulling it back, so – because of that, they gotta go back to planning commission to start it all over.

Rico [32:46 ]: So it sounds like the wetlands – they don’t want to clean it out.

Brian [32:51 ]: No, it wasn’t about that – I’ve not heard anything about pollution. But wetlands are expensive in two regards, if it’s an actual wetland. First of all, you’ve gotta get permission. There’s a lot of regulatory stuff to fill in a wetland. Sometimes you’ve gotta buy wetland credit sell square, you know, things like that. So environmentally it’s difficult because, technically, the aggregate amount of wetlands in Georgia has to stay the same. So if you fill in wetlands here, somewhere else you’ve gotta create them.

Rico [33:23 ]: It’s an impervious surface also.

Brian [33:27 ]: Yeah, well that is – even though it’s kind of a separate issue, even though they’re both storm water related. So wetlands can be a lot of cost on the bureaucracy. And two, you also have to – if you’re filling in wetlands, you’ve gotta bring in stuff and sometimes you’ve gotta dry pilings in the ground because the soil has not been compacted long enough. And so often times it just gets cost-prohibitive for somebody.

Rico [33:53 ]: SO they’re gonna take their time and come back.

Brian [33:55 ]: Well yeah, my understanding is they’re already on the planning commission agenda, but because they’re redoing their site plan, there’s a material change, they’ve gotta start the process over. So they pulled their application to start over.

Rico [34:10 ]: Okay, cool. The – going down the list of the city council, the definitions of nuisance of urban camping. So, two parts to that, right? One is redefining certain definitions, I guess. Was the second reading consideration in the ordinances. And also there was a second part that was a mandate about specific sections of articles 1-4, really about conflicting ordinances, I guess. How to deal with unsafe buildings, drugs, sexual abuse in buildings and stuff like that.

Brian [34:41 ]: So, the urban camping definition – well so, we went into our code section and had to update a lot of stuff. And so, when attorneys went through and did this, they identified some things that were in conflict with stuff, state law had changed in certain things that were now in conflict. We needed to bring it up, there have been court cases that kind of – so it’s bringing a lot of stuff up to code. The main things, after that -we had to change some terms, make things accurate as far as state law goes. Then, we had some things that had not been addressed that we needed to. Like, we needed ot have a prohibition against standing water in certain things. Some people were having pools and stuff that they weren’t keeping clean, it was breeding mosquitoes. So there are some things like that. And then urban camping is one which we only have to address as we started to own public property – town green. And so those are – that was what drove these. It’s just pretty typical for cities to go through code every now and then and kind of say, ‘Alright, we’re gonna clean it up some of this stuff.’

Rico [35:58 ]: From experience also, you realize you may need changes because of the way life goes, right? Then, there was also the town center. Okay, so I did an interview with Willie Degel from Uncle Jack’s Steakhouse, Meathouse. It’s actually Steakhouse in New York, Meat house here. So they requested some changes to their elevation plans. The building’s actually gonna be a little bigger, I guess? There was the original plan for the Xfinity – 

Brian [36:29 ]: Well, I don’t think the inside of the building’s gonna be bigger. I think there’s just gonna be more outdoor seating so that Willie can actually have more people. Which is really what required him to change some of the – so, you know, Fuqua Development which is our private partner with the Town Center development – they owned a building Willie’s going to lease. So they’re the ones that actually have to petition the city because they’re the owner of the building. And they’ve had to work through with him to get the facade to look the way that he wants his branded Uncle Jack’s Meathouse. and that required them to come back.

Rico [37:12 ]: He was telling me a little bit about the New York – they actually have a Bootleg entranceway downstairs, you know, that he brought through the bathroom to get to the safe. They open the slot, they let you in – a speakeasy. It’s interesting, only in New York type of deal, experience. And that’s what he’s looking for, experience.

Brian [37:34 ]: Well, you know, there’s one here near the energy center, an Uncle Jack’s Meathouse, right. And I’ve been to it. They do a good job in creating an ambience that’s unique. And so yes. We’re looking forward to it. It’s going to be – it was an experience beyond just the food. She did a good job up there, it’s a little bit – that one was a renovation of an existing one, so, we’re looking forward to it.

Rico [38:07 ]: Yeah, so am I. This is a show, and the food supports our state. He likes – 

Brian [38:12 ]: He likes both. And some of the really good chefs, if you want to go to a restaurant – they are good. They realize that it’s a combination of two things that make you – make those places places people wanna go. They have good food. And then also, if you have bad ambience or non descript ambience, you don’t set yourself apart, then people won’t necessarily go either. So he does a good job – 

Rico [38:43 ]: I can’t wait to see it. That’ll be spring of 2020. It’s a bit away. Um, Earth Fair. The old Earth Fair, if anyone knows where that is still. There’s new people running it now, but it’s where the shopping center – Marcos – they had an auction there. They’re auctioning off the inside of that store. Organic farmers auction. It wasn’t clear what they were auctioning. It was really the supermarket. Do you know what’s going on there? I hear there’s maybe someone coming in there, but – 

Brian [39:18 ]: Well, so what I can say is, it does look appear that the owner of the entire shopping center, you know, the entire development has potentially come to terms with Earth Fair, which was the leasee. And of course they closed it before the lease ran out. So there was some negotiation between the two so that the space would become available again. So there is indications that they’ve worked that out. And Earth Fair is wanting to extricate all of, you know, their old equipment and whatever because, you know, they know that something’s coming in. We do not have anything official as far as who the next one is other than just the owners and, you know, asking a few questions and we’re gonna have something soon.

Rico [40:16 ]: It sounds like also, they’re losing the dry cleaner there too. Again, I’m getting some information from next door which isn’t always the best way – that’s right. 

Brian [40:26 ]: It’s potentially, sometimes when this happens, when you would, I guess call the anchor tenant, is changing, you’d have a lot of the ancillary, smaller places that feed off of the big one. You know, good examples of that would be – you can go out, you see a lot of Publix, or if I remember, Kroger or Walgreens had a good relationship with Krogers. So Krogers would build, a Walgreens would go next to it. People were always like, ‘Why?’ Because they felt like they fed off each other well. THere’s examples of that. SO when the anchor tenants change, oftentimes those ancillary ones, you know, change also. Because they may not feed off of the anchor – the next one versus the one they had next door. And so, it wouldn’t surprise me if that s happening because they’re gonna need a C state change there. It’s gonna be kind of a rollover of that space.

Rico [41:33 ]: But it would make sense that, I don’t see another place coming in. And it is the entertainment district over some expensive…Anything special going on in any other parts of the city that we should be aware of?

Brian [41:48 ]: Um, now back to school, that dust is settling. We’ve got the pedestrian bridge will start soon. They’re doing geotechnical soil stuff. We have had some movement on both by certain property developers and by certain property – developers of the property behind Black Walnut and Chase. I think Hotel Indigo and – so both of them have progressed in their behind the scenes stuff on getting through getting certain things from the city. Visor got their market certificate approved by us, ARC recommended us approving it – our council approving it, so. That’s to be developing property within the river corridor – the old Visor property – a lot of it is in the river corridor. So, you know, they’re moving forward. So those two people – it takes, even after they get a rezoning from the city, only after that can they move forward with getting financing and maybe even getting partners who will maybe build things.

Rico [43:12 ]: So the department and the town and the hotel is moving along.

Brian [43:16 ]: Boutique hotel. Yes, there’s movement there, too. Starting to need some information from us, asking about certain things, so those are good signs. Guinnett Medical Center opened there.

Rico [43:30 ]: Yup, shared city primary care. Just next door – 

Brian [43:32 ]: The old Apolitos.

Rico [43:35 ]: Yup, completely cleaned it out.

Brian [43:37 ]: So, some of that. We had the qualifying came equipped. So we had four seats that were up for reelection. So it was Lorri Christopher, Phil Sadd, Alex Wright, and Mayor Mason. Three of the four are running unopposed. The only one that has a challenger is Lorri Christopher.

Rico [44:04 ]: She post or at large?

Brian [44:06 ]: She’s at large. And so, we will have an election, but it will only be one of the seats. So that’s significant.

Rico [44:16 ]: Yeah, that is. It shows that a lot of people are happy with them.

Brian [44:20 ]: That’s usually a fair assessment when you’re unopposed. Generally people are like, ‘You know what? They’re doing a good job. We do not need to run against them.’ Not to say that people just pick one, you know, it’s not because – here, you basically could have picked any of them. 

Rico [44:35 ]: I guess, yeah. That’s true.

Brian [44:44 ]: Yeah, but I’m saying, you didn’t get that where you live or anything, you know, so it’s just something like a dart board and you don’t know what it lands on. Lorri Christopher – 

Rico [44:53 ]: It’s a lot of work to do this, and people don’t understand that. Work sessions, council meetings, and all the stuff beyond that. But people don’t understand the amount of time it takes, it’s commitment to do the job well. To can do the job and not do it well.

Brian [45:11 ]: That’s correct. You could almost be absentee – show up twice a month, but no. There is a lot of stuff. People don’t realize that expectations of – you need to be certain places, representing city places, meeting with people, because you need to learn something or meeting with people because they asked for a meeting with you, even if it’s not. I would say at least half of the services requested from the city are referred to me by council members who, when they met or talked on the phone, told the person, “Well I don’t have the authority. You’ve got to talk to the city manager.” That’s where the – it’s a referral from a council member because – well, people don’t really know, they’re like – there’s this bush that’s growing out into the road and it’s making the sight line hard to see. I want the city to trim it back. And they think, how do I get it done? Call my elected local official. There’s nothing wrong with it all, I’m just saying that it takes their time. Because oftentimes, I need to meet with you to talk about it. They don’t know. So then they meet, they get it done, at the end of it, they’re like, well you know what? That sounds reasonable. However, I need you to talk to the guy that can actually get it done. And so, yeah. It’s a lot of their time. Part of being – 

Rico [46:40 ]: Part of being a city rep. We’ve been spending our time here with Brian Johnson, city manager, talking about Smart City Expo that’s coming up September 11, 12 and 13th. Three day expo in the city’s World Congress Center. So feel free to find out more about that at SmartCityExpoAtlanta.com. And if you need your bushes trimmed or something – 

Brian [47:05 ]: Come directly to City Hall.

Rico [47:09 ]: You don’t have to go to your city council person. But so much stuff going on. Hopefully, we’ll find out more stuff about the apartment complex and Indigo and Visor property and Earth Fair in the coming months, but I appreciate the time because this is always enlightening. It’s always a good place to hear things online and the forms and stuff like that – it’s always good to know the straight stuff.

Brian [47:37 ]: Well, I can speak on behalf of all the city when the part of our job is to communicate with our residents, and we can try as hard as we want, but we can never get to everybody. So you can never have too many communication mediums, and this one is a great one, so we appreciate you doing it because even if we reach a couple people who don’t, you know, go on our website, aren’t getting our newsletters or whatever, but they heard this, that’s an important part of it. So we appreciate you doing this. It’s a way of educating our citizenry.

Rico [48:12 ]: Well, this is Peachtree Corners Life, we appreciate you being here. Find out more about our post and our other podcasts at LivinginPeachtreeCorners.com. And look for the Peachtree Corners Magazine in October in the first week. It should be in your mailbox. All 18,800 mailboxes. Thanks guys.

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Prime Lunchtime with the City Manager: Micro-mobility Hubs, License Plate Recognition Cameras [Podcast]



Prime Lunchtime with the City Manager

City Manager Brian Johnson joins Rico Figliolini to discuss a possible Micro mobility Transit Hub, e-scooters, LG – MRI, Special Service Districts and updates on the pedestrian bridge, the Indigo Hotel, license plate recognition cameras and more. Recorded at Atlanta Tech Park in the City of Peachtree Corners, Georgia

“A lot of what that is driving that lately tends to be around Curiosity Lab as we know it’s serving the very purpose that it was created to serve, which is to become a magnet for companies… But a lot of what we’re doing in the economic development arena is taking the Curiosity Labs environment that we’ve created and talked to companies about how they can use it”

Brian Johnson

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[00:00:30] – Intro
[00:02:42] – LG Tele-scooters
[00:16:39] – LG MRI
[00:23:19] – License Plate Recognition Cameras
[00:40:22] – Redevelopment Authority
[00:44:03] – Pedestrian Bridge
[00:46:22] – Indigo Hotel
[00:47:17] – Fiserv Property
[00:47:31] – Peachtree Corners Festival
[00:48:44] – Workforce Housing
[00:51:40] – Closing

Rico: [00:00:30] Hi everyone. This is Rico Figliolini, host of Peachtree Corners Life and this show once a month with Brian Johnson, the City Manager. It’s Prime Lunchtime with the City Manager. Hey, Brian.

Brian: [00:00:39] How are you?

Rico: [00:00:40] Good. Good. It’s been awhile. We’re going to go through, let me, let me talk about my friends though. Our lead sponsor. So my friends had Hargray Fiber. They just became a lead sponsor, and I want to tell you a little bit about them. They are a company that is not unique in the space, but provides unique solutions. So they are a fiber company business to business. Just moved into Peachtree Corners that based out of Savannah and Hilton. They craft customized solutions for hundreds of businesses throughout the Southeast. They are working with small businesses to provide affordable bundled services and enterprise level businesses that are looking for a full suite of managed IT services. So Hargray Fiber can customize those solutions to work best depending on what your company and your industry needs. So an amount of that industry, Internet, high quality TV, phone solutions. They’re the ones to do it. They have a local presence. You don’t have to worry about the cable guy. They will be there and they are community friendly and they are doing lots of outreach to the city of Peachtree Corners.

Brian: [00:01:46] I’ll just say, let me add one more thing. Hargray not only has their office in Tech Park. But they are the fiber provider, the official fiber provider of Curiosity Lab. So if you think of all the technology that we have, or we’ll be talking about and Curiosity Lab, be it 5G. Which, you know, people are like, wait a second, 5G is wireless. Well, the wireless, the 5G antennas that spit the wireless signal out have to be powered by something and they’re powered by a fiber line and it’s Hargray, the backbone of Curiosity Lab. All the technology, the backbone of it is the fiber line that Hargray provided. So it would, it literally, none of it could work without a fiber optic cable that Hargray provided is, wouldn’t be working. So they’re a key part of Curiosity Lab.

Rico: [00:02:42] Excellent. And if you want to find out more about Hargray, just go to HargrayFiber.com. That’s HargrayFiber.com. And we’re on, we’re in Atlanta Tech Park and this podcast studio is here at, which is in Tech Park, Atlanta on the road of Curiosity Lab that went on the test track. So this is cool. In the midst of this, we’re going to be talking about a lot of things going on, high tech and and also keep an eye out for Peachtree Corners Magazine. Our next, this should be out in another week or so. And we have a cover story on companies here on Peachtree Corners, innovative technology driven, and a big part of this community. So, we’ve been, I think, it’s been about a month maybe that we have, haven’t spoken since. I mean, you’re on the show on the podcast. So there’s lots going on. And guess what, we were talking ahead of the show about something going on there. Reminds me of Bladerunner, for some reason. It’s just the technology to be able to see the big images of things on, in the public realm and public streets and stuff. Tell us what’s going on with the Tele-scooters with LG specifically that you met with, that’s going to be out there that people can see.

Brian: [00:03:58] Well, you know, part of any city’s operation is economic development. You’re always wanting to make sure that, you know, the businesses you have are healthy or attract new business. And so you, you know, cities do that. We do that. A lot of what that is driving that lately tends to be around Curiosity Lab as we know it’s serving the very purpose that it was created to serve, which is to become a magnet for companies to either come to Peachtree Corners on a temporary basis, you know, even for the day to use or, or tour or whatever. And you know, we at least know that if they’re here for one day, they got to eat lunch and they’re going to eat in our restaurants. And you know, just a couple of days in our, our, hotels, we’ll get, you know, the indirect benefit of revenue from them. But a lot of what we’re doing in the economic development arena is taking the Curiosity Labs environment that we’ve created and talking to companies about how they can use it. And we’re getting ready to unveil the next very unique user of Curiosity Lab, which is the tele-operated E-Scooter. And so…

Rico: [00:05:14] Which is available now, actually even, right?

Brian: [00:05:16] No, not quite. Not quite. You may have seen them out there, the company getting ready to, to task, but the way it’ll work is we all know what an E-scooter is. A lot of controversy lately about E-scooters in cities. Especially in Atlanta, where you’ve had two things that have created problems. One, of course, is the users of the scooters, not obeying traffic laws or being cavalier. Too fast on sidewalks when they shouldn’t have been on sidewalks at all. Or I’m trying to zip in between automobiles and they get hit by, you know, so the, unfortunately, unlike the drivers of automobiles, irresponsible drivers, you can’t. You can never overcome. But the other aspect of E-scooters that are frustrating is the fact that people will leave them wherever they want. And the difficulty and the overhead costs of the company that owns a scooter, repositioning them for more people makes it difficult. And it frustrates people when you’re walking down the sidewalk and there’s, you know, 12 E-scooters all over the. Well, the company and it’s two companies that joined forces for this that are going to be testing a way to maybe address that issue is. We’re going to have tele operated E-scooters. And those are E-scooters, like you could buy from, you know, whatever, you know, sporting goods store or whatever. And they have been retrofitted with a kit that adds two little training wheels to the back so that they can stand on their own. Because most of them are just, you know, two wheels so they can stand on their own and a camera on the front stem and when necessary, the E-scooter can be driven by a human from a remote location via the camera that the, that they’re viewing through the, so in this case, the company has a tele operation center in Mexico city, and so they’re going to have, it’s almost like a call center. Where you got people sitting at stations and when it’s time for the E-scooter to be activated, you know, from a distance, they can then have the screen go live. The consumer takeover and drive the East scooter and how that’s gonna work is they’re going to look at the scalability of doing this for two reasons. One, you can summon the scooter, like an Uber or Lyft. And so they’re going to have an app that if you want to do it for, if you work in Tech Park or you want to do it just for novelty sake, you can have the scooter come to you. And then you jump on it and you drive it like any other scooter. That’s one. And the other one is, is they’re going to, the companies go into look into whether or not on a
large scale by large scale, they’ll get up to about a hundred E-scooters, but no more than that. They’ll see if they can reposition the E-scooters from that Mexico city location using tele operation and not have to get up truck and two guys driving all these locations.

Rico: [00:08:52] Which is a big economy in Atlanta cause that’s what they’re doing in Atlanta.

Brian: [00:08:55] That’s correct. That’s what they have to do everywhere because what other way would they reposition them?

Rico: [00:09:00] So 5G actually helps it because there’s no latency, really, or very minimal?

Brian: [00:09:06] I think so. Yeah. For all intents and purposes, none for that. So that’ll help. And then they’re also testing, because you know, 5G will take a while for it to get their testing. The ability to transition from 4G LTE to 5G and back and forth. And then, so they get to test that out. And then what you refer to at the beginning is this got back from talking with a local company called LG MRI, which makes LG exterior televisions screens, whether in, it could be touch-screens or, or what, but they make it specifically for the outdoors. And we are talking about maybe partnering or, or having a collaborative effort between a number of companies. In the case of LG MRI, they would provide touch-screen televisions at the bus stop and we would also integrate this kind of micro mobility transit hub. It would be a bus stop, a real world bus stop that Gwinnett Transit…

Rico: [00:10:12] That already exists.

Brian: [00:10:13] Gwinnett County transit has, exists. Who would have the, you know, the bus stop shelter cover would have solar panels and those solar panels would provide the electricity for the LG screens and we’re going to integrate a docking station for the E-scooters into this. And so you could invariably ride the bus to this spot and then jump on the E-scooter to do that last couple hundred yards or whatever to your office, or vice versa. When it’s time to go home, if you’re going to go home via bus, and this is like real world buses isn’t like a, you know, coming to people testing, this is a, yeah, but, and these scooters are going to be available to the public.

Rico: [00:11:05] Anyone that’s within technology park?

Brian: [00:11:07] Well, no, you can come over here and just use it for novelty if you want, but I’m just saying, you know, you can actually get on and so, but let’s say you work in Tech Park. I mean, you could some in the E-scooter to your office through an app, through an app. It gets there. You jump on it, you ride it to the bus stop. You put it in the docking station and then when the bus comes, you get on the bus while you’re waiting, you can either see at, you can use the interactive kiosk, you could find out how far away the bus is, you can do all sorts of things.

Rico: [00:11:40] That might be cool to be able to see real live, 10 minutes away. And then also it’s going to be able to play probably commercials or all the things in big huge screens and stuff. That’s the part that reminded me about Bladerunner for some reason.

Brian: [00:11:56] And you know, this kind of stuff, these companies want to, you know, be involved in creating, you know, call it the bus stop in the future. We have all these things together, you know, inside these screens and these television, exterior television screens, the LG MRI, people call it their chassis, but it’s got a container basically. That houses all the components inside and it’s completely watertight and it also cools the interior components.

Rico: [00:12:30] So even if it’s a hundred degrees outside.

Brian: [00:12:31] Even if it’s a hundred degrees, it’s good, but it also has the capability of adding third party devices inside the box. To provide lots of things outside of this one box, including like DSRC roadside units, 5G small cell antennas, wireless access points. All inside of this box and the television that it will, the entire, you know, kind of all in one module also has edge computing. So it actually can compute certain things. It has a degree of artificial intelligence and computation ability at that location versus having to go, you know, somewhere to some brain somewhere else and come back. And so it could, so these companies are loving this sandbox we’ve created. For them to come play. And so we’re kind of like being a, to a degree, a, a matchmaker, you know, we’re, we’re talking to, Hey, they’re doing this and what about you doing this? And we’re kind of like the matchmaker that owns the house and we’re like, you know, or owns a restaurant. We’re like, why don’t you two get together and you can come to our restaurant and have your date where we’re telling them we got some property here. No, he’s saying to come here, we’ll kind of facilitate. We’ll let you tie into certain things.

Rico: [00:13:51] And you know, it’s a cool, it’s almost like I could almost see at some point, you know, asking Gianna, or Emma, what’s the temperature now and how far is that bus? It’ll answer that.

Brian: [00:14:00] Yes, yes, they have that. So, you know, here’s some interesting stuff. So these units, when we were talking to them, they have deployed these units recently at the entry points. To Taylor Swift concerts. And what they’ve done is the screens have been displaying imagery that’s of some interest to people going there. And inside the box is facial recognition software. And when people are looking at the image, it will take and get us a snapshot of their face. And it scrubs that against databases that I guess the Taylor Swift security team has for people who are on, kind of call it a watch list for her like that. Then there’s a restraining order against them because they’ve been stalking her. They’ve made comments on social media sites about her. They’ve been, and so these celebrities have people that do that, and so they’ve been able to identify people who have posed or have a high potential, suppose a threat to her. So that helps them. Sure. It’s being done on a private, private venues. So there’s not this whole, you don’t have any, you know, they voluntarily went to this for.

Rico: [00:15:30] Sure. It’s not a public thing.

Brian: [00:15:31] No, it is not a public, they buy a ticket. And they know. Right. And so I’m at a private, you know, concert venue. But then the security team knows, and I actually don’t know what was done about it. It could have been, they just kept an eye on him. It could’ve been that they were asked to leave because of, you know, I know that the team, you know, the, the, the company that provided this housing, this chassis for all this technology did say that, you know. They, it identified some people who there was a restraining order against, because they had been convicted of stalking. So maybe there’s those rests leave. But anyway, the other interesting thing is the concert venue insurance requirement.

Rico: [00:16:15] Did that go down?

Brian: [00:16:16] Went down because the insurance company was like, you know what? You are minimizing risks for things, so you don’t have to have as many. But the unique part of this is this, is technology that’s housed in one water tight, secure unit, and it’s using multiple things at the same time to further.

Rico: I mean, just interested in the, you know, at home, if you have an alarm system, of course your home insurance will be discounted. So similar. And it also introduces, I mean, this is great. I mean, I’m, I’m all for this, certain people are like afraid of the technology to a degree. And there is even talk, I don’t know if this is, I think this is in England, Europe at this point. But you may come across the ocean to us to talk about moratorium and facial recognition, recognition videos because of in the public realm, in the public space. Because of privacy concerns and stuff. And I know, you know, so our next and next thing, and this is cool, so that was the LG MRI?

Brian: [00:17:20] Yup.

Rico: [00:17:20] So people can Google that and find out more.

Brian: [00:17:23] Yeah. I mean their, their manufacturing plant. Fascinating. They had just asked us to come over and meet and they wanted us to show the, show us their site too, but they are going to have, they also are interested in hanging digital, digital screens on the side of light poles like you see out here now that are the banners, they make, ones that you can have digital. So you can have all sorts of messaging on that and it’s not the same thing. So yes, it is. So they’re going to do that stuff. So today was, they were like, we’re going to do something where can we put things as we told them, here are the areas of our sandbox. You can do things. And so we’re going to have another meeting in a week or two where they’re going to come back and say, we would like to do things here, here.

Rico: [00:18:15] That’s amazing, I bet you didn’t even think about that. This and that at this point.

Brian: [00:18:18] There’s so much of this that I didn’t even know. I mean, some of it’s really cool, like, wow, you know, I didn’t realize that technology is here. Some of it is in technology that I thought was farther along than it is. It’s represented that it is, but when you get into it, it’s not quite as, so I’ve had both, but yes, I mean, so just unique things that can be done in a, in a, you know, using technology, especially when you pair a bunch of them together.

Rico: [00:18:47] The, so let’s, let’s go into, because. This past Tuesday, city council meeting, a few things went on that LG MRI that was really all support allowed because of what you passed just recently. The micro mobility, a piece of it.

Brian: [00:19:02] Yes. So for us to have E-scooters operated on, because currently E-scooters, haven’t really been addressed by the city much. It was addressed in our entertainment district ordinance in it for it prohibited E-scooters, essentially in our entertainment district, which is our town center and kind of that area. Other than that it’s not addressed. So theoretically, you know, somebody could go buy one and go out there, but we had to address it in some way. But because this is a pilot program, it’s testing or whatever. What we did is we created the programs similar to kind of how we regulate other activity within our right of way. Like if a telecommunications company wanted to come in and do work in our rideaway, like very cable, we have to give them a permit to do that. We did the same with the E-scooter, created one for a scooter so that they can have, that can be the activity that they are involved in in our right of way.

Rico: [00:20:09] Is that a sunset rule also?

Brian: [00:20:11] It is. So it set a couple of things. One is initially it’s just a curiosity lab. Two, it is a year long pilot program. Three, it has to be geo-fenced. So there has to be, the technological capability of having the E-scooter shutdown if it gets outside of a previously defined area. So if you tried to drive it up to the town center, at a certain point it was shut down. Similar for the golfers out there, sometimes you get on a golf cart has GPS and you’re supposed to be cart path only and you get off the car path, often times it’ll shut down or it’ll go real, real slow until you go back. And so similar. And then we also require this permit. Requires the E-scooter operator to have tele operation capability. And because E-scooters in general don’t need to be tested, I mean they work, right? This is the test part. The reason there’s a lab that’s needed is because of that tele operation. So we’ll start on that and if it works out, we can always expand the boundaries a little bit. Would love to create a scenario in which you could have E-scooters go from the thousand plus hotel rooms we have at the south end of Curiosity Lab between the Hilton, the Marriott was a Homewood suites in Hampton and the town center for that. I mean that’s, there’s a, that’s a need base between the two, especially Sunday or Thursday night,

Rico: [00:21:48] 141 because those sidewalks.

Brian: [00:21:50] Potentially, I mean, state law, there are some, there’s a lot of in the, in the Georgia General Assembly. Is currently considering legislation on defining certain aspects of
E-scooters. So we’re keeping an eye on that and made reference to our permit, would permit it would have to adhere to all state and local laws on E- scooter. So if that tweaks things, you know here soon because the General Assembly did something. But anyway, that’s kind of how it will operate. But they’ll get ultimately up to a hundred scooters and they are available to the public as just like any other e-scooter. Well, I don’t know if it’s free. They may end up having a slight, okay. They might, we’ve encouraged it not to since it’s a pilot, but that’s not our decision. So we don’t know that yet. But yeah, but. If you do get on it, you know it. It’s, it’s an off the shelf E-scooter that they’ve nearly outfitted with a camera on the front stem, training wheels on the back, which as an operator of it, you don’t deploy, they deploy it remotely. So it’s just like any other ones. If somebody’s been on a bird or a lime or do the same thing, it’s just that when you’re off of it, the company may on its own decide to move it somewhere else.

Rico: [00:23:19] So we were talking a little bit about the micro movability part and stuff like that too. So there’s gonna, you also discussed the, license recognition, facial recognition. cameras that are going to be deployed. So did that come to fruition did the city council decide on a plan on how that’s going to happen?

Brian: [00:23:39] So at the council meeting, we had the first read of the final bill. Final vote will be at the February council meeting, but the council had the first read of an ordinance creating the, or it’s really activating the city’s ability to create what are called special service districts. What that is, is, home rule municipalities in Georgia have the authority to create a special service district and they can define the district how they essentially see fit. And inside this district, there can be unique things that happen inside this, just this district for a specific service. An example of that would be you could create a special service district for public safety, and you could do things inside of this special district that were specifically aimed at improving public safety. So doing things like installing video and license plate recognition cameras, installing streetlights, those are things that improve public safety. That special district can have unique things about it. For instance, it could, council could say, install a bunch of streetlights on a street that was dark, that was not a connector street, one that did not serve a true public purpose. So a neighborhood street that maybe was a residential street that had houses on it, and a dead end. But the mayor, if it had problems there, the city could install streetlights on the street and then take the pro rata share of the cost of the streetlight and equally distribute it amongst all the homes that benefit from the surface or all the apartments, as the case may be the apartment units.

Rico: [00:25:47] So now volunteering to be part of that if someone wants to, if a subdivision wants to be part of that and volunteer, you guys have set up percentages or ways to do that?

Brian: [00:25:58] Yes. So, and you know, you’re referring to the fact we’ve talked about before, that this ability to create a special service district gives counsel the ability to determine what threshold that would be required before they did it. We can start with kind of the fact that council can impose it.

Rico: [00:26:19] Wow. Okay.

Brian: [00:26:20] If it against, in other words, that it doesn’t have to be a threshold. They have that authority. I’m not saying they will, but they can’t. And then I will give you examples of that where they may one day. Yes. An apartment complex that has a crime problem. That has been, you know, there’s been some issues or whatever. They can decide, you know what, you don’t have enough street lighting, so we’re going to put street lights in there.

Rico: [00:26:47] Even though it’s internal, internal to that apartment complex.

Brian: [00:26:52] Well, as long as the city streets are public, you know, you could do it in there. If they’re private, private streets, internal to that could, but the council could put it at the entrance.

Rico: [00:27:02] Okay. But with them, because apartment complexes have their own streets and driveways.

Brian: [00:27:07] If it’s truly private. Some of them are public still. There’s a lot of neighborhoods and having, you can look at them as interior streets, but they’re really the city.

Rico: [00:27:13] Well, for sure. If the city’s going to pay them. They’re public streets.

Brian: [00:27:16] Correct. I promise you that we’re not paving streets that are not, most streets in the city are, are public. There are very few that are not in there. Very, very few that are private that are not behind a gate. Very few. There’s only a handful of apartment complexes that have a labyrinth of streets interior that are not public.

Rico: [00:27:37] And they pay for their own.

Brian: [00:27:38] And they pay their own, and most of them, maybe all of them are behind the gate. Then they’re private.

Rico: [00:27:44] But inside that gate on the public street.

Brian: [00:27:47] The city could do a number of things. It could light it up, you know, prior to that. But a good example, you know, but so the streetlight one, say there’s apartment that a city streets and the city didn’t feel like there was enough lights. He could do that and then put it on the property owner. The landlord to pay it. You know? I’m sorry, your crime rate is too high. It’s unacceptable. We think one of the things that would improve public safety is better. Lighting cause there’s been maybe, you know, problems in the parking lot at night or whatever and we’re going to do that. Or another one would be in, this could even apply to an apartment complex that has a gate. And so the interior streets are, but there’s a lot of criminal activity coming and going. The city could decide to put a camera at the entrance so that all the cars coming and going got picked up by that camera. And it could create a special service district around that
area and in that district, they can charge the property owners for that camera because it’s a Public safety.

Rico: [00:28:48] So what’s a threshold to volunteering?

Brian: [00:28:50] All right, so volunteering, that’s where council probably between now and February, make the final decision cause it’s only had the first raise, but they’re really leaning towards probably a 70% threshold. I think, you know, the 50% plus one, they kind of feel like that’s, you know, just too close. And they, most of these, they feel like, look, you ought to have a super majority for us to, for them to feel kind of like, ah, you know, this is good. And so there, there will be an option here for a community to ask the city to do something because it’s unable to do it itself. And that so they could exercise a referendum kind of component.

Rico: [00:29:45] Which is to become a special district?

Brian: [00:29:47] Right? For a particular purpose. And so there’s really three things, three services as we envision it. There could be more in the future, but really three that may be a service that results from these districts. One is the camera, video camera, license plate recognition to a streetlights, and three, your speed bumps or traffic control devices. Speedball bobs or speed humps, as the case may be are usually the one that cities don’t like to just put it in because it affects a lot of people. We tend to want to have a lot of buy in from the community, if, if to put it. So those are ones that we envision being a service that we, the city can provide either voluntarily, where a community comes to the city and says, here’s proof. You know, we did a referendum, and here’s proof that 70% of the property owners want it. Or the city could decide to do it because it’s just, there’s too much problems for whatever reason. There’s too much speeding and, but, but the local, the local residents, and we have this in a couple of places where the local residents can never get enough property owners because they’re renters and the owners live out of state and they don’t want to. So it can be one where the city council just decides, you know what, it needs it. We’re just going to do it.

Rico: [00:31:16] But the city council has to vote.

Brian: [00:31:18] Oh yeah. City council has to vote.

Rico: [00:31:18] It’s not like some regular department decides.

Brian: [00:31:22] No the city, no.

Rico: [00:31:24] Okay. So like a special use permit. Does it go through planning commission or is it straight to say?

Brian: [00:31:27] Oh no, I don’t. I think it’s straight to city council on those because, yeah, I mean, it’s really not a land use really how it operates.

Rico: [00:31:36] So the cameras are really license plate recognition, not facial recognition.

Brian: [00:31:40] Well, no, there won’t be any facial recognition on this.

Rico: [00:31:43] And like we discussed before, this is really stored for a certain period of time. No one can see it or use it unless there’s a crime or something pursuant to it.

Brian: [00:31:53] the, the way that it will work that we envision it a work is, and there’s one other way that you can end up having this happen in that is they’re considering, homeowners associations that uniquely fit a unique, qualification. And that is really, essentially, they have officers that have been elected and they own property that can receive a, that, that receives a property tax bill. Because if that, if they meet that threshold, they could request a camera. Like at the entrance to a subdivision that the HOA owns, and then the city can build that HOA through it’s property tax bill nature way. Then can take a vote and officially ask for the city to install a camera.

Rico: [00:32:47] I’m just curious because can they request the probe one near the swimming tennis, for example? Within the subdivision.

Brian: [00:32:55] If the city owns property. If you could put it in the public right of way, so it’s not a private street. And the HOA gets a property tax bill, then yes. Invariably there could be a yes, put it here. And so all that being said is you are bringing up, so the way that mayor and council are envisioning the way that I ultimately proposed is when these cameras go in. If there’s a request and all the things, the city is not going to end up having access to the data ever. It is going straight to the cloud in Gwinnett County PD. And the cloud access by gonna County PD. And the only way Gwinnett County PD access is it is if there’s a police report filed.

Rico: [00:33:56] Not even for that it recognizes a plate that may be.

Brian: [00:34:00] No, that would be automatic. I’m sorry. So yeah, you’re referring to when Gwinnett County, sometime in 2020 will have that special division that’s stood up. Our license plate recognition cameras will then communicate directly with Gwinnett PD. And if a license plate that it takes a photo of comes up hot. That there’s a warrant for that vehicle. For some reason it was reported stolen. It’s an Amber alert or really invariably, what most of them come up hot for is no insurance or expired tags. But that’ll automatically go to Gwinnett PD. And Gwinnett PD will make a case by case decision on whether the license plate coming up hot is worthy of moving assets around specific to it. But we do know, having talked to other communities who have just put this in place that, you know, with like the insurance and expired tag stuff, it was just to me, is not gonna end up in variably having anybody do anything different. But you could get like an Amber alert would be a good one. They will immediately deploy assets upstream of the direction of travel of that vehicle, at least where the direction of travel, when they got the photos.

Rico: [00:35:19] Because it’s real time, it’s getting out there.

Brian: [00:35:21] It is real time that’ll happen. But when it comes to you, even that photo, well not be accessed by anybody other than Gwinnett County PD. So a photo was taken and they may send a message, but every photo, every license plate photo is taken here and will go to the cloud. And it’ll sit there. I want to say it’s 30 days. It’s written over. So the storage is only for 30 days worth. And then day 31 starts recording over the very first day in that. But the video and the photos of the license plate are going to a PD. The city will never have access to it. And if somebody wants historical imagery or video from that, they’ve got to file a police report. And the reason to do that is just to avoid the, you know. Not to say that I wouldn’t want to do this, but, you know, say my daughter, you know, when she grew up was, you know, snuck out or whatever, and you know, you wanted to find out who, you know, came back, things like that. But it just, it’s so ripe for abuse on those kinds of things. So mayor council, and that’s his staff’s decision. It was just like, you know what? We’re not in it. It goes directly to the cloud. And it stored for that period of time before turret. And if somebody files a police report, they get through good PD access, and then Gwinnett PD can come in and they can use it to investigate. But we’re not in it.

Rico: [00:36:49] And I think the way you set it up, you know, no one can really argue too much about that as far as privacy goes, because the only access point would be if there was a crime. And that’s…

Brian: [00:36:59] Well, it’s gotta be something worthy of a current, a police report.

Rico: [00:37:02] Correct. And that’s reasonable. I don’t see anything wrong with that. You know, facial recognition in a variety of ways could be an issue at some point. But, but not that.

Brian: [00:37:11] And these do not have that. None of these have nothing capabilities of those, we’re not getting any cameras that have facial recognition.

Rico: [00:37:18] So there’s not even a capability to upgrade.

Brian: [00:37:21] Not the cameras that at the camp we’re getting. These are Georgia power. These are cameras do a Georgia power program called site view. So this isn’t like fly by night or this isn’t, this is a program they have created and they hang these cameras. And the reason they did this is because they can generate money. They hang these cameras on their light poles or trap or their utility poles. So there’s already power there, right? And we don’t buy the cameras. We actually lease the cameras monthly. And so monthly we pay it. But what we get for the monthly cost is it’s an all inclusive. We don’t have to do anything. We never had to pay up front for the camera. We don’t pay for the cloud storage. We don’t pay for the electricity. And if it breaks, we don’t pay to have it repaired.

Rico: [00:38:14] You’re just paying a leasing fee.

Brian: [00:38:16] Right. And it’s how our streetlights currently exist. And so it’s a pretty common, but so this isn’t like self love, but this is Georgia power, a public service commission, regulated utility. But no, it doesn’t do facial recognition. And I will tell you, if it did, the amount of storage that you would have to have and the amount of edge computing you would have to have for there to be. Analysis done, and a database to pull facial imagery to enter the store is, is not even.

Rico: [00:38:52] It’s different from being able to use an assistant like that to count bodies.

Brian: [00:38:57] That’s correct. So it’s not, we have that capability at the town green. They just count. All it can do is differentiate between a human and a vehicle. So it’s counting people. That’s why when you know, I say there’s a, there’s any, and even then there’s a little bit, because it doesn’t know enough to not count you twice over really, right. I mean, but on a concert, we can kind of take snapshots of how many are there at a time.

Rico: [00:39:23] Non moving. Okay.

Brian: [00:39:25] So the, we can kind of get a pretty good idea of how many people in there, but if we had it like say at the, I don’t know, a door of a restaurant or the restrooms or whatever. You know, if you’re in and out, in and out, it would count you all the time. So you have to still, but no, we don’t have, again, it takes a lot of, takes a lot of juice. To make that to where it’s really working cause you got to be pulling from a database because to recognize your face, it has to have your face somewhere. Then it’s got to have the ability to take a photo and then pull distinct marks like a fingerprint, and then it’s got to be constantly scrubbing the face image that you just came on there against, God only knows how many images out there and oh by the way, it’s taking photos, all these new ones doing it. It’s just that a lot, it’s out there. The technology is out there. But we don’t have anything close to that, at all.

Rico: [00:40:22] Okay, cool. Let’s, let’s move on a little bit to, cause we’re getting towards our time a little bit, but I want to touch on a few other things. The redevelopment authority, you’re doing a plan for that, right? But you said would take about 12 weeks, you’d think three months we have to pull it together.

Brian: [00:40:40] So the State statute that allows cities to create redevelopment authorities, has some requirements in it. And mayor and council have made the decision that we’re going to create a redevelopment authority. I’m going to start concentrating on some of the redevelopment needs and opportunities in the city. You know, by redevelopment. It’s really, you know, taking a parcel that has been developed in one way, shape, or form at one point in time, we don’t have a lot of vacant stuff, so most of it’s still operating, but sometimes it’s just not quite as great of a use as we would like or whatever. And so redevelopment opportunities and redevelopment authorities have certain tools at their disposal that the city government itself
does not. Very similar to ride downtown development authority, which we have and has own property, has entered into an agreement, has incurred debt, and so it has a lot of the same powers. Although you know most of this stuff as anything in life goes, you know, the oil that makes activity work as money. You know, so these authorities need money. It’s usually the city having to appropriate money to them, but the redevelopment authority does have certain tools like access to grants that the city doesn’t have. It does it directly, and it can, it can negotiate a sole source without having to bid it out in something. By law having to go to the low bidder. Sometimes a little bidder is not the best one.

Rico: [00:42:18] For sure though.

Brian: [00:42:19] But the city doesn’t have a choice. They do. But anyway, this state statute laying out all of the requirements for redevelopment authority exists require that there be a redevelopment plan that is in place before you create the redevelopment authority, because redevelopment authority will be created to execute the redevelopment plan. And maybe amend it, but that’s the original plan is and so we have to start with doing a redevelopment plan. So council is, you know, we set the wheels in motion. We have, we interviewed firms and we selected a firm and they’re going to start on the redevelopment plan. Given the history of us collecting and organizing, compiling data in certain things that are necessary for a redevelopment plan. We’re actually a lot farther along than we thought, so it’ll only be about 12 weeks or a full blown one to be done, including some public meetings. That will be advertising to come in and hear about, you know, where the plan is, and you know, the plan will have everything from areas that should be part of the redevelopment effort. It doesn’t have to be, it probably doesn’t. It probably won’t be all of the city. It’ll be targeted areas for targeted reasons, and so there’ll be some public opportunities for people to weigh in. And I’m at a certain point, council will approve that plan and then turn around and immediately start populating the redevelopment authority and get it populated, and then they’ll adopt their bylaws and a way they go.

Rico: [00:44:03] Right. A lot going on there. So I wanna also hit on a few things quickly because we don’t have that much time but I want to be able to sort of get an update, let’s say. Pedestrian bridge. I see the pillars going up. How far along are we really?

Brian: [00:44:18] I mean, you know, we have issued the order to start fabricating the span, which is being done off site. And of course you see the two, you know, ends going up. A lot of concrete, you know, and it’s intricate cause there are elevator shafts in there. But that’s being formed and poured. We’re still hoping to have the span dropped on site sometime maybe in May and dropped on site. So they’ll have the span, but then we’ve got to start attaching the sides because you know, it can’t be just like a, a little railing. This is over a very heavily traveled roadway. Georgia DOT has to permit this whole thing. Because it not only is over their roadway, but the two towers are in their right of way. So it has to be permitted by them. And so they’ve got to inspect this to certain points. And so the span will come out. We’ve got attach sides that are, have small enough openings that you can’t throw things out into traffic.

Rico: [00:45:33] Right. And then assignments to essentials.

Brian: [00:45:35] Well, there’ll be, there’ll be letters spelling out Peachtree Corners right. But, and then you’ve got to pour the floor cause it’s steel fabric, and then they’ll set it in place. Everything. So, I mean, you’re still, you know, sometime in the summer we, it should be done, but it’s moving along. You know, well, I mean, of course, you know, it’s got to get State approval at various places. So, and weather’s always a factor in everything, and it’s a little bit slower because we’re not wanting to close lanes to do any of this. So, you know, there are certain things that it would move faster if you could, but we’re not going to. So anyway, but you know, some or some time this summer is not bad.

Rico: [00:46:22] All right. And what about, we were talking about the Indigo hotel, possibly the apartment complex there, the 12 town center. Is that moving along any, any more than what we discussed last time?

Brian: [00:46:35] I mean, the owner and the ownership group raised over $23 million, something like that for the effort. That’s official fact. They’re already starting to issue quarterly reports to all of the investors. So they’re holding their money that much. I do know. So if they weren’t serious, I don’t know why they would go out and raise that much money only to have to give it back.

Rico: [00:46:59] So the $23 million will actually fund both those buildings, the whole thing.

Brian: [00:47:05] And so I, yeah. It looks like it’s moving. I mean, you know, they haven’t submitted for any permits or anything yet, but then there’s, you know, there’s a lot of work behind the scenes that go on some of these things.

Rico: [00:47:17] The old Fiserv property, I understand earth is moving or things are being done there?

Brian: [00:47:22] Demolition of existing buildings is, is happening. It is moving forward, phase one at least.

Rico: [00:47:31] All right. And then, I hear this, the Peachtree Corners festival is going to be at town center this year?

Brian: [00:47:37] It is.

Rico: [00:47:38] And there’s plenty of space. Good, good, good. Is it going to be, are we going to be closing off the street? I guess Peachtree Corners circle?

Brian: [00:47:50] Yeah. So it looks like for it to be, for it to have enough property, we’re going to have to bring into play the section of Peachtree Corners Circle in between Medlocke and
Peachtree Parkway. And close off some of it. There’s the, you know, I don’t know if it will be for Medlocke, just to the entrance to DaVinci court. Probably that’s probably what it will be done then DaVinci court’s parking lots might come into play, but you know, like the car show and the vendors setting up, you gotta have a lot of space. And then we use the town green as the concert space. And so I think the link between the two will be, well, I think it’ll be good. You know, and I know the businesses want it.

Rico: [00:48:44] Oh, I’m, I’m sure. I mean, you know, the businesses are, you know what I’m seeing more you know, everyone’s doing their bit to gather more business. You know, it’s just the zone. You can’t even hire enough people it seems with some of the businesses, especially the restaurants it seems to be that there’s just not enough people to hire to do the work.

Brian: [00:49:08] Well, I mean, that’s a whole different, you know, it’s a whole different conversation about workforce housing. You know, communities love having lots of service related, you know, amenities, restaurants. Good stores, you know, boutique stores, entertainment, but they have to have people working in them that are in the service sector. And service sector doesn’t necessarily make a lot of money. And so sometimes it’s hard if you’re in that, you know, if you’re like working in a restaurant in an affluent area. You can’t live close to that because you can’t afford to.

Rico: [00:49:47] So is the city looking at solutions for that?

Brian: [00:49:49] Well, I mean, yes, we’re always looking to have as diverse of a housing stock as we can. Just like we want a diverse local economy. The trick there is to find the right locations for all of that stuff. And so, but, but we are, but yeah, I mean, the other thing though is we’re kind of in that unique point in time, we just added a bunch of new stuff, which means the, what existed prior to that is kind of sharing. Then you’ve got this extra, this extra, you know. Fight for finite resources. And we’re not in that final stage of all of the local rooftops. You’ve got 75ish townhomes that still have to be built. They’re starting. You can see some of them coming out, but you know, that’s, that’s people that are right there. And then you’ve got 250ish shower, many units that were in the pedestal. Apartment complex on the Robert’s property. They haven’t started yet, so that’s a lot of rooftops. We’re calling residential units that are right there in town center. That’ll help. And then we also haven’t connected the form and town center yet. So right now I felt that there had been times where I may have walked to the other side for something, but because I can’t easily, I just got by, I said, screw it. I’m not gonna do that right now. Whereas if you could’ve just walked across, that probably would have. So linking it all together. So we’re hoping to just get through this transitionary period and everything is relatively, you know, the same. And then at that point, I think we’ll have a good base for customers.

Rico: [00:51:40] Yeah. Yeah, for sure. When there’s, especially these shorts bridge road, the old Fiserv property, more, more stuff going on there. This has been Prime Lunchtime with City Manager, Brian Johnson. I appreciate the time you’ve given us.

Brian: [00:51:52] Thanks for having me.

Rico: [00:51:53] We’ve been at the Atlanta Tech Park here in the city of Peachtree Corners doing this podcast, talking about all sorts of things from mobility to development and retail and business. I want to say thank you again to our friends at Hargray Fiber. Who has been, not only is a lead sponsor of this podcast and the family of podcasts, but also a big part of Curiosity lab and Peachtree Corners. So thank you for that. And you can find more information about Hargray at HargrayFiber.com so appreciate it. Thanks everyone. Take care.

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City Receives ARC Green Communities Certification



Pictured: Doug Hooker, ARC's executive director, Peachtree Corners' Economic Development Manager, Jennifer Howard, Mayor Mike Mason, ARC's Sustainability Coordinator Kelsey Waidhas and Kerry Armstrong, ARC's chairman of the board.

On Wednesday, Jan. 22, the Atlanta Regional Commission (ARC) announced that the city of Peachtree Corners and three other metro Atlanta cities (Dunwoody, Sandy Springs and Woodstock), have been certified through the agency’s Green Communities Program.

The program recognizes these cities’ efforts in demonstrating leadership in sustainability practices. Developed in 2009, the ARC Green Communities Program recognizes local governments that invest in programs and policies that lead to a more sustainable region.

Peachtree Corners was recertified at the Bronze level for providing single-stream curbside recycling to all residents and hosting an annual electronic waste disposal event for residents to safely and properly dispose of electronic appliances and devices. All winners earned certification points for sustainable measures implemented in their communities.

“Protecting our environment and recycling responsibly have always been of paramount importance to our city,” said Mayor Mike Mason. “I am very proud that Peachtree Corners has once again been certified by the ARC.”

The nationally-recognized program showcases the many ways that local governments can reduce their environmental footprint. In metro Atlanta, 20 local governments – 13 cities and seven counties – are currently certified under ARC’s Green Communities Program. This is the first program in the country to promote sustainability through a green certification program for local governments.

“These local governments are to be commended for demonstrating an ongoing commitment to conserving energy and protecting our natural resources,” said Kerry Armstrong, ARC board chairman. “Their efforts set a positive example for other communities while fostering a sense of regional pride.”

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Councilmember Sadd Schedules Town Hall Meeting for January 21



Phil Sadd

Post 1 Councilmember Phil Sadd is hosting a town hall meeting on Tuesday, January 21 at 7:00 p.m. at Winters Chapel United Methodist Church, 5105 Winters Chapel Road.

Issues to be discussed include:

  • Spalding Drive Widening and Holcomb Bridge intersection improvements
  • Crime Prevention Initiatives
  • Town Center Upcoming Projects
  • Curiosity Lab Autonomous Vehicle Test Track
  • Re-development Efforts

“If you’ve ever driven on Spalding Drive between Winters Chapel Road and Holcomb Bridge Road during rush hour, you’ve probably experienced significant delays and extended wait times, said Councilmember Sadd. “At the town hall meeting, we will provide an overview of the Spalding Drive project and explain how it will help improve traffic flow and increase pedestrian safety.

“This project will bring incredible improvements to our city, and we want to provide our citizens with an opportunity to understand the plans and ask questions.  In addition, we will provide updates on other key activities taking place throughout our city.” 

The Peachtree Corners mayor and council members, as well as other elected officials with common jurisdiction, will be in attendance to inform citizens of key matters impacting the community.  The town hall meeting will include an open Q&A session, giving citizens an opportunity to voice concerns and ask questions of their local representatives.

The town hall meeting will be held in Peachtree Corners District 1, and is open to all citizens.

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