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A Talk with John Chan on education, funding for public safety, medical rights and big tech censorship

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John Chan, a candidate for Georgia House Representative of District 97, talks with podcast host Rico Figliolini about state-level control of schools, sex education, police funding, taxes and regulations, and medical rights, and medicare expansion.

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John’s Website:  https://johnchan4ga.com

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[00:00:30] – Intro
[00:01:46] – About John
[00:05:19] – John’s Political Viewpoints
[00:08:53] – Working on Taxes and Regulations
[00:11:26] – Expanded Healthcare and Political Stances
[00:14:28] – Education Issues and Opinions
[00:21:58] – Issues with Crime
[00:26:17] – Big Tech Censorship and Accountability
[00:30:27] – Public Concerns
[00:35:24] – John Asks for Your Vote
[00:38:18] – Closing

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John Chan

“In growing up how I did, kind of disadvantaged, poor, not speaking English, needing to work all the time… What I really realized through it is that the work ethic and the American dream is so alive, but it has to be used. And that’s kind of what’s shaped a lot of my thinking of how I’ve been able to succeed in life being quote-unquote disadvantaged.”

John Chan

Podcast Transcript:

[00:00:30] Rico: Hi everyone, this is Rico Figliolini, host of Peachtree Corners Life. I appreciate you coming out, joining us on this show, on this episode. My special guest today is John Chan. He’s running for Georgia House Rep District 97. Hey John, thanks for joining us.

[00:00:45] John: Hey, great to see you. Thank you for inviting me.

[00:00:49] Rico: Yes. No, I appreciate you coming out. It’s the election time, so we’re getting quite a few candidates on the podcast, so it’s good to be able to get a good course section of candidates to interview. But before we get into that, I just wanna say thank you to our sponsor, EV Remodeling Inc., And Eli, the owner. Great people, great company. He lives right here in Peachtree Corners, does a great job with the work he does, has a great website. If you’re looking to maybe design and build or remodel, you should go to his website, EVRemodelingInc.com and check out his Houzz account, if you haven’t done that. Most people will use that H-O-U-Z-Z and find out the portfolios of work he’s done. So check him out and let him know you found it on the podcast. So now let’s get to John. John, this is the first time, you haven’t held political office, if I understand correctly, right?

[00:01:39] John: No, not only haven’t I held political office, I’ve never run for political office. I’ve never really thought about it before.

[00:01:46] Rico: Okay. So start us off, tell us a little bit about John Chan. Tell us who you are, where you come from. I know a little bit of your story, but give us a little background about where you’re coming from.

[00:01:57] John: Sure. So, my parents fled China when the Communists took over in 1949. They went to Hong Kong and eventually found their way over here at the United States. And I grew up in Columbus, Ohio. English was a second language for me so, I had to go to summer school to straighten out my speech. And I grew up pretty poor. They came over here not having too much. So I got scholarships and loans and worked and got through school. I went to UCLA. Today, my brother and I own a construction company that does historic restoration work. And we do work all over the country and even some abroad. So we’ve worked on, gosh, I wanna say seven president’s homes, and numerous really, really fantastic old buildings. We’re right now working on the Maryland State Capital, which is our third state capital building. And embassies, and you name it.

[00:02:52] Rico: Wow. I’ve only met, I think one person, that has done any work on that type of stuff. It is like, that’s gotta be the most intensive work doing that renovation, restoration actually of historical places like that.

[00:03:06] John: Yeah, it’s a lot of fun.

[00:03:08] Rico: How’d you get into that? I mean, that’s unusual actually.

[00:03:11] John: Yeah, it was a summer job. I would come back from LA and work at a small, little fledgling roofing company in Columbus, Ohio. It was a Slate Roofing company, and we just kind of broadened from there. So into copper roofing, into historic masonry work. And we do a lot of different things now all over the country and even some abroad. We worked on the House of Parliament in Trinidad.

[00:03:35] Rico: Oh, wow. Alright, cool. Great background. I noticed that you were part of the Roofing, National Roofing Association or something like that. I was wondering about that, roofing organization is nonprofit?

[00:03:45] John: Yeah, so I’ve been a member and served as, different board members or different positions in different associations. Right now, as you can see, I’m in a hotel room because I’m in Saratoga Springs, New York. It’s the National Slate Association’s Annual Conference, and I’m speaking here.

[00:04:05] Rico: Oh wow. Okay. So you’re active in the industry as well. So it’s not just doing the business, it’s actually educating in the business a little bit?

[00:04:12] John: Yes. I do, gosh, I’ve done seminars all over the country about slate roofing, copper roofing, and things like that.

[00:04:20] Rico: You did some of your studies or your schooling at UCLA with economics as a background or degree?

[00:04:27] John: That’s correct, yeah. I went to UCLA and graduated from there with a BA in Economics. That’s kind of like my formal background, yeah.

[00:04:35] Rico: Interesting. Before when you mentioned that English is your second language because I sort of am the same way. I was born here in the States. My parents came from Italy and I had the same issues. Yeah, some of the same issues. The principal called my mother in and said, listen, you’ve gotta speak English team only in, at home because he’s speaking to us in Brooklynese and Italian and we can’t figure out what he’s saying. So, yeah.

[00:04:59] John: Oh, that’s cool. What part of Italy were you from?

[00:05:02] Rico: Well, my parents came from a small village between Rome and Naples.

[00:05:07] John: Okay.

[00:05:07] Rico: A farming community actually. He was a mason, did some masonry work and stuff like that, but ended up not in that business. That was a tough union to break into in the United States, actually.

[00:05:17] John: Yeah. Yeah, I’m sure.

[00:05:19] Rico: Yeah. So, okay, so you haven’t run for office. This is the first office you’re running for. Let’s also give people a little bit of an understanding where that is. I’m gonna bring in this map. So prior to the redistricting that went on, the District 97 actually incorporated Sugar Hill, Suwannee, parts of Johns Creek I guess, Duluth. That’s the left side of that map, and the right side is actually the map that exists as of the new redistricting, which takes in parts of Peachtree Corners, Norcross, Burke Lake, and just a tiny bit of Johns Creek, mostly Duluth. Is that fair, I guess?

[00:05:55] John: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, yeah, that Johns Creek on that map it’s a little bit off where the name is. So it’s just, probably like, 10 or 12 houses in Johns Creek.

[00:06:05] Rico: Yeah, that’s what I thought. That’s what we talked about before. So to give people a little understanding about where that district is. Let’s bring it back in. And you are running as a Republican, you had no contested primary. I think, correct?

[00:06:19] John: Correct, yeah.

[00:06:20] Rico: Cool. So, and you’re a bit of a conservative. Do you think that comes from your upbringing? , I tend to see that sometimes, depending where people come from when they’re first generation American, they tend to be a little.

[00:06:32] John: Sure, yeah. I would say that comes from my upbringing to a certain degree because I heard a lot about communism and the horrors of it growing up. And in growing up how I did, kind of disadvantaged, poor, not speaking English, needing to work all the time. Basically you know, I got a paper route when I was eight years old because the clothes that we would get were, you know, they were kind of strange. We’d get them shipped over from Hong Kong and they were irregulars. And so I got a paper route and bought my own clothes. And what I really realized through it is that the work ethic and the American dream is so alive, but it has to be used. And that, that’s kind of what’s shaped a lot of my thinking of how I’ve been able to succeed in life being quote-unquote disadvantaged.

[00:07:25] Rico: Yeah. I guess that background does help sort of shape your outlook, your point of view in the world, right?

[00:07:33] John: Absolutely.

[00:07:34] Rico: So even going to UCLA, which is probably a liberal school, if you will, to a degree. How so coming from there, I mean, did you find challenges? Did your beliefs evolve a little bit? Most young people tend to be somewhat liberal, it seems, right?

[00:07:51] John: So growing up, I wouldn’t say I was conservative or liberal. I felt like I needed to just learn things. Because going to school, like I said, early on in childhood, I didn’t know what little league was. I didn’t know really anything about the Bible or Catholicism, which is what many of my friends were. I didn’t know a lot about the American way of life. So I was more in the gear of, well, let’s learn everything. I don’t wanna make too many harsh decisions without understanding things. So that’s why I actually took a very broad spectrum of classes educationally. Everything from biology to linguistics to Japanese tea setting ceremony. I took all these really unusual courses, appreciation of jazz. Because I wanted to learn as much as I could about virtually everything so I could make an informed decision of how things worked.

[00:08:53] Rico: Okay. Fair enough. And that makes sense. Having a broad pallet of experiences makes a lot of sense when you’re trying to shape policy even, right? , So let’s get into some of the issues. To some degree, I’m going off your website, right? Some of the bullet points, because these are your beliefs. These obviously are front and center on your website. So I wanna be able to let people know a little bit about who you are and the way you believe on certain issues. So one of them, for example, let’s take lower taxes and regulations, for example. Very broad. Let’s try to bring that down to the State of Georgia maybe, or maybe even down to the county level. So what does that mean in the state of Georgia when you have a Governor like Kemp already doing some tax cuts to some degree. Giving money to like the state, like the AARP, similar to what the federal government did, the American Registry program he did on a statewide. To some degree he gave back some money. How do you believe lower taxes and regulations would work for an area like the city of Peachtree Corners or Gwinnett County?

[00:09:54] John: Well, first of all, I wanna say that I think Governor Kemp has done an incredible job economically. We’re like number one, eight or nine years in a row for the top state as far as economics. So I think he’s done a great job at that. But on the more local level there’s still a lot of waste. And what I mean by that is, if you look at, say the study that Gwinnett County did. They paid about $300,000 for a study on the mall. And that was basically poured down the drain. Why? Because there’s several different owners of the Gwinnett Mall. Your anchors are owners, so you’ve gotta really go in and talk to the owners and get some kind of an idea or agreement of all the different directions that it could go before you do some kind of a study. So when you pay for a study that costs $300,000 and you don’t consult the owners, well, it’s gonna get shot down immediately. So you’ve got things like that where I feel that government spends money without thinking. They don’t operate it like a business. You know, we grew our business from virtually nothing to 120 employees. And to do that, you’ve gotta be fiscally responsible. And I feel like government really needs to be fiscally responsible, especially on the federal level. But this is more on a local level. But yeah, Governor Kemp overall has done great on that front.

[00:11:26] Rico: Yeah, government is, is a hard thing, right? So if you operate as a business, it’s good in some respects. In some respects though, then some other things happen, right? So, like, for example one of the aspects of helping out citizens, giving like medical coverage, expanded healthcare, let’s say. That’s another big issue that people talk about. That’s a big issue here in Georgia because we don’t have an expanded healthcare, right?

[00:11:51] John: Right.

[00:11:52] Rico: So, and part of that is, I had this discussion with a couple of other candidates, right? Federal government’s going to pay 90% of that, but only for a couple of years. Then the state has to take over that budget after that. Hopefully they have the money then at that point, but how do you feel about that, about expanded healthcare?

[00:12:09] John: I like the idea of expanded healthcare, to a degree. So I think that citizens should receive that, but I don’t feel like any illegal aliens should be paid this money through taxpayer dollars. So again, I think that healthcare is very important and we need to be able to fund some of that, especially because we’ve got a surplus. So I think some of that surplus money needs to be put in to help the citizens of Georgia. But yeah, not people that are here illegally.

[00:12:44] Rico: So you’re okay with expanded healthcare then?

[00:12:48] John: Yes.

[00:12:49] Rico: Okay. Because some Republicans aren’t, for some of that same reasons I explained before.

[00:12:54] John: I am conservative and I am running as a Republican. But in many respects, I’m a little bit more down the middle in that, the whole reason why I’m running is that I feel that a lot of fingers get pointed from the right to the left and the left to the right, and nothing really gets done. And what I mean by that is that look at society today. We’ve got men in women’s sports, we’ve got inflation spiraling out of control, the crime is creeping up here, and you get a lot of finger pointing. And that’s kind of where I feel like my background is really beneficial. I’ve been able to work with a lot of people from all different parts, of all different walks of life, I should say. And basically get them to look at a goal and get that goal attained. And I feel like a lot of politicians are more interested in pointing the finger than getting the job done. And that’s where I was saying, I think the business background is really helpful because it’s been done and achieved in the physical real world. So yeah, it’s like I may not agree with all the Republican ideas, but I am pretty much conservative, yes.

[00:14:14] Rico: So less of an idealogue right wing, more of a practical middle of the road, then. Sounds like to me.

[00:14:21] John: Yeah, you could say that. I’m more of a practical type of person, like what’s going to work?

[00:14:28] Rico: Alright. Thinking about that and talking about control and such, one of the issues is education and bringing control of education back to the state level, is what you’re pointing out. Whereas, I would imagine a Republican would want to keep as local as possible, like down to a county level even. And obviously Gwinnett County is one of the largest school systems, if not the largest in the state. So how would that affect then if you brought, if there was a department, if the state had control of education, like that?

[00:15:00] John: Yeah, I think we want to bring a lot of things back from the federal level. I prefer things to be more controlled locally. And as far as education, I’m 100% behind school choice. I think that the money should follow the child. Because what happens is, let’s say you’ve got a poorly performing school and they just keep on getting money. Well, they have no incentive to do any better. Whereas if the money follows the child, the child can go to whatever school, and then the schools that are performing will receive more of the money, and it just works out that way. Because you’re going to have schools like right now, where they’re underperforming and nobody cares.

[00:15:47] Rico: Interesting on that one, John, because I understand that, and I personally don’t have a problem with that. I think I agree with you to some extent on that. My problem is, is the amount of money that gets back. Because most private schools cost a bit of money. Even on the very low end, we might be still talking 10,000 a year. And that’s a very low end actually, because private schools, the median is probably closer to 16,000 a year. Or 12,000 somewhere around there. So how much you know, government money can be given back to let the individual actually practice their choice?

[00:16:23] John: Well, it would be however much they’re spending on kids, whether it be 7,000, 10,000, whatever. Let’s say it’s 10,000 and you’re sending your child to a private school that costs 16. Well, you’re going to have to make up the difference. You can’t just, that school’s a business.

[00:16:40] Rico: Okay and what about then the loss of that budget money to the local schools like Gwinnett County School, for example?

[00:16:47] John: Well, they lost it because they weren’t performing. And they’re going to have to do something to figure out how to perform, to maintain and keep their kids. And that’s the thing, when a business is shrinking, you’ve gotta be able to look at it and go okay, what is the remedy? Is it the economics? Is it our teaching? What’s happening here? And in any business, when you see the downturns, you’ve gotta be able to look at it and fix it. So when you have that loss of money, as the school district, you’d have to say, okay. Well this school, this particular, I don’t know, junior high school is having difficulties, but not our senior high school. So what’s happening here in the junior high school? And then you fix it.

[00:17:35] Rico: Okay. What about well, one of the bigger subjects has been training high schoolers. Either given them, creating an apprenticeship program, or giving vocational classes to high schoolers that may not want to go to college, may not be able to go to college, may prefer doing a vocational like HVAC or something along that line. Do you think the state should help with some of that? With funding of some of that or?

[00:18:02] John: 100%. Yeah, 100%. There’s a big lack of qualified people in your blue collar trades. And if they were able to learn things like wood or sheet metal or HVAC just a little bit as they grow up and have these apprenticeships, I think it would help society so much. Because as you can see, there’s a lack of qualified blue collar workers. That’s really needed.

[00:18:33] Rico: Yeah, for sure. And I see like sometimes, like even one of my kids had asked me, they said if I do this subject, I’m only going to max out maybe this amount of money, but if I become an HVAC person, I could be making a hundred grand a year, maybe. And that’s, that is that dilemma, right? Do you go spend a hundred thousand on your education and then not make the money?

[00:18:55] John: Yeah, right. There’s a lot of vocations, sheet metal, HVAC, being an electrician, a plumber. There’s a lot of those types of vocations that you can make a really great living at. And I think that it should be helped in the school system so that students can choose those vocations.

[00:19:15] Rico: Do you think, John, that there should be a public private partnership with certain industries to be able to promote that within the school systems?

[00:19:24] John: 100%. You know, if you look at a lot of your European countries, for instance, like Germany. For roofing, for instance, you’ve got this coexistence of the schools and businesses where they sponsor the kids and they can get a lot of this education for free. Or they even get paid learning it and doing it. So I think that if you could get businesses to buy in and actually help fund that, that would also relieve the schools to a certain degree.

[00:19:58] Rico: Cool. Totally agree with you there. Some of the other things that you pointed out, for example, and it probably all ties in, right? Sex education in the schools, gender equality, or gender identification. What is your core beliefs on that, John? How do you feel about that aspect?

[00:20:15] John: Well, I feel like the school should pretty much zero in on reading, writing, and arithmetic. And a hundred percent against all the gender reassignments and things like that. Because when you’re a kid, one minute you want to be a fireman, the next minute you want to be an astronaut, the next minute you want to be a writer, the next minute you want to be a basketball player. And when you get kids, they’re full of imagination and I think that kids should look and see all the different things such as like I said, HVAC, plumbing, whatever, or Japanese tea setting ceremony. But they should experience a lot of different things. But when I see things about like gender reassignment surgery, that’s shocking to me. It’s like now you’re stuck for an entire lifetime and that’s just horrible. So that’s my viewpoint on it.

[00:21:16] Rico: So within the education system though, and we’re not maybe talking about elementary school and middle school, because those are challenging years, although some people would want to take it down to that grade level. But even high school to be able to provide I guess safe areas, the ability to be identified the way you want to be identified. Do you think that’s reasonable within a school system? We’re not talking about necessarily, education versus acceptance or tolerance or something along those lines.

[00:21:47] John: Yeah. No, I don’t. I believe you’re born a male or a female, and there’s two sexes. I don’t believe in however many sexes that people come up with.

[00:21:58] Rico: Okay. Alright, fair enough. We talked about crime before, god knows here in the city of Peachtree Corners, we had a really bad shooting at a local QT station. Although, there’s been some violence even at some long stay hotels and such within the area. But the shooting at the QT was nerveracking for many people because it was a young man, 29 years old, had gone to Norcross High School. And it was simply a carjacking that went bad, it seemed. Three people decided that they wanted to take this pumped up car and the kid didn’t wanna let it go, and he died for that reason, likely. So these three were finally arrested, but they were arrested because they were followed through using technology. License plate camera readers, all the video cameras along the escape route, if you will. They finally were able to build that case. Do you think that the state should be able to help some of these cities get online to have like these crime centers in the cloud? Where do you think the state should be in creating a high tech environment for more effective crime prosecution? And being able to make public areas safety for our citizens safety.

[00:23:12] John: I think they should to a certain degree. I’m against government, big government, watching you all the time. But this is where it was very helpful. I think in curbing crime, you’ve got a much better opportunity to do that by having fully funded police. Police being very visible. If police are very visible you more than likely not have that crime. Whereas this, you’re catching them after the fact. If police are always around and they’re interacting with the citizens, they’re at the festivals and people feel comfortable with the police, the criminals are less comfortable and there’s gonna be less crime. But if you just have the cameras and everything, well now you’re kind of catching everybody after the fact. So that’s kind of how I feel about that.

[00:24:07] Rico: Well, some of it, like for example, fusūs is a company here in the city of Peachtree Corners. Actually they’re based here, but they’re a national company. Their systems have been signed onto cities like ours, like the city of Atlanta, other cities. Even across quite a few counties in California. Where they’re intredicting the crime, they’re actually being used while the crime is happening almost. That’s the idea, to be able to chase down the criminal almost in that live moment to be able to get them. It’s almost, it’s impossible unless you do like minority report, right? Like that movie?

[00:24:41] John: Right.

[00:24:42] Rico: Where you like get them before they do the crime. That unfortunately it doesn’t.

[00:24:46] John: A precog.

[00:24:47] Rico: Yes. Unfortunately that doesn’t happen. So you either get them while it’s happening or you get them post happening, but you don’t want get them like three weeks later if you could get them a day or two later. Because the same criminal is gonna do more crime during that time, right?

[00:25:01] John: Exactly. Yeah.

[00:25:03] Rico: So and the fact that, for example, I don’t know what the exact numbers are, but most police departments have budget for more cops, for more police on the beat. But they cannot fill the position with qualified people. It’s like everything else. There’s just not enough people wanting to be police officers. What do you do there?

[00:25:23] John: Well, I think you have to make it more enticing in many different ways. One is respect. I mean, we have to be able to say we respect and we back our police officers and we don’t have anything like the defund the police going on. So I think a lot of it has to do with respect and also with training. If the police officers feel like they’re very well trained and they’re also out on the beat in the community where the people really respect and admire them. I think you’re gonna have a whole different idea with the police. It’s hard to fill right now because it’s a little bit controversial. There’s the whole defund the police, there’s all the eyes on the police. I think that you have to make it more appealing for people. That’s one way. Pay is another way, but there’s a lot of different ways to make something more appealing.

[00:26:17] Rico: Okay. When we come to big tech. I know that part of your fight is against censorship. I don’t know how that would apply to, what do you mean by the censorship part of big tech? Do you mean like how the way Google and Facebook presents news or works with political viewpoints?

[00:26:37] John: Well yeah. I think it happens in many different venues whether they be political or any other way. But the ideas that they wanna shift and shape how you think. And I don’t think that that should be allowed. I don’t think that they should ban a certain type of expression or one side of a political campaign or anything like that. I think that things should be open and free.

[00:27:04] Rico: Do you think Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter and his statement that he would let Trump back on Twitter, do you think that’s a good thing?

[00:27:14] John: Yeah, actually I do. I think that every person, unless they’re in some kind of criminal activity ought to be able to have free speech. I don’t see why he would be spent censored.

[00:27:26] Rico: Okay. Alright, fair enough. Because, I mean, we do believe in free speech, right? We are America.

[00:27:32] John: Absolutely.

[00:27:33] Rico: This is a republic, although most people think of it as a democracy, but we are republic.

[00:27:38] John: Republic, yeah.

[00:27:38] Rico: Right. So we want to make sure that people can put their viewpoint out. You might not believe in them, right? But that’s okay.

[00:27:46] John: So if I’m on Twitter and I don’t like Donald Trump, I block him. If I’m on Twitter and I don’t like President Biden, I block him. So, I mean, that’s how I think it should be. Not that Twitter should block somebody.

[00:28:02] Rico: Yeah. I think that gets a little complicated, right? Because they’re like a publishing tool, although they’re not the publisher of the news, they’re just the feed for it, the pipe for it. But when you throw in algorithms and the algorithm decides what you’re going to see as an individual whether it’s conservative, liberal, mean spirited, or whatever. Then is it Google that should be looked at and because maybe the algorithm is censoring what I’m gonna say. Right, I guess. Yeah, it’s a bit of that. That it gets complicated there, I think.

[00:28:38] John: It does.

[00:28:39] Rico: If we were all smart enough, we’d figure it out, I guess. So accountability. I guess that gets into the accountability and the false reporting and the misreporting and the misinformation and the disinformation and all that, right?

[00:28:52] John: Absolutely.

[00:28:53] Rico: So all that, I mean that happens within this. I mean, I could be on TikTok for 30 minutes and I’ll see things. I’ll be like, wait, I know that’s not, that’s just being put out there. There’s no explanation. And who knows if that was shot three years ago, that riot. And it looks like it’s just happening. So we should let that, I mean that’s part of free expression, I guess.

[00:29:14] John: Yep.

[00:29:14] Rico: Right?

[00:29:15] John: Yeah, it sure is. And it’s part of you know you’ve gotta be able to look at something and go, is that correct? Or is it not? And it should be the person’s own viewpoint, whether they want to act on it or not act on it.

[00:29:31] Rico: So, critical thinking should be part of every student, every person, right? Should have some sort of critical thinking?

[00:29:38] John: Yep. Absolutely.

[00:29:40] Rico: Alright, cool. Yeah, that’s one of the things my kids learned through the IB program, the International Baccalaureate was critical thinking. How to come, because that, if you’re familiar with the IB program.

[00:29:52] John: I listened to the principal of Norcross talk about that because I was over at 45 South speaking, as was he, so yeah.

[00:30:02] Rico: Oh, okay. Okay. So you got to know a little bit about that.

[00:30:05] John: Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. It was, it was very enlightening.

[00:30:08] Rico: Yeah, it’s a worldview actually. It’s looking at education and topics with a worldview to some degree. A more global look at these issues and these topics. Math and world history can have some things that tie them together, right? They shouldn’t be just separated out as siloed subjects.

[00:30:26] John: Exactly.

[00:30:27] Rico: So where have you been actually, where have you been speaking lately? And and what do you find out there, when you’re speaking at like 45 South? That must have been the Norcross community meeting, I guess?

[00:30:37] John: Yeah.

[00:30:37] Rico: They do that. What is it that you are finding people are interested in? What type of questions are you getting at those meetings?

[00:30:45] John: The main things are pretty similar. It’s what you see out there in society. They’re worried about their pocket books. They’re worried that bacon’s gone up from $4 to $9. They’re worried about their gas, they’re worried about their property taxes. They’re worried about what’s going to happen next. And so that’s one thing. Crime has been another. A lot of people are asking about you know, you talked about the murder at the QT. Well, that’s really close to home for a lot of us. I’ve gotten gas there many times. There’s another murder just a couple days ago in Lawrenceville, which is out of the district but pretty close. And I don’t know if you go shop at that Sprouts there, but you see all the, all the donuts. You know. People are just taking over the street right there.

[00:31:33] Rico: Right.

[00:31:34] John: Yeah, there’s all kinds of these kinds of issues. And then obviously education. People want to know what’s your idea on how you fix this? You know, Georgia’s ranked 38th out of 50 states. And yet we’re already paying our teachers 18th. So I think there’s a lot of things that are on people’s minds that are similar. And I’ve gone over most of how I think about those three problems. And I think it’s vital that we attack those things and get them on the right track. Because right now, and this is really why I’m running. I have an ad going that I’m not a politician. Well, I’m not. I’ve never thought about running for office. I just see what I see. I see inflation spiraling out of control. I see men in women’s sports. I see you know, the crime. Atlanta’s actually got a higher crime rate per capita than Chicago, and it’s creeping up this way. I mean, there’s, there’s all kinds of crime issues that we have right now in Gwinnett County. So these are a lot of the questions that are being asked. And I think that instead of pointing the finger from one side to another, I think that we have to have real life solutions. I think that I’ve been able to prove that I can create real life solutions and in working with a lot of different types of people and getting them all on the same page. So instead of pointing the finger, I think we need people that will work together and get a product.

[00:33:10] Rico: Cool. Okay, fair enough. Do you want to share, are there any topics that we haven’t discussed that you’d like to share your viewpoints on?

[00:33:18] John: There’s one, and maybe this is controversial. I don’t know. When I first threw my hat in there, I didn’t know who I was running against. So it was JT Wu and Ruwa and we’ve been kind of going around. And then I’ve had a lot of people come up to me and start telling me about Ruwa And now I’ve got it on one of my push cards. They said, hey you know, she’s been the communications director for CAIR, C-A-I-R. It’s the Council for American Islamic Relations. And they’re like, do you know what that is? I said, I’ve heard of it. And they’re like, well they’ve been labeled as a terrorist organization by the UAE, United Arab Emirates. They’re supported by Hamas and Hezbollah, what are your thoughts on that? I said, well it’s pretty shocking. I said, let me see. And it does say that she was employed by CAIR or is employed by CAIR. And I don’t know what to think about that. That’s very shocking to me.

[00:34:13] Rico: Now the UAE, but not the United States has that organization on a list. Is what you’re saying.

[00:34:20] John: That’s correct. But also if you look at, I haven’t delved into it too much, but there’s also an article where basically the FBI says the same thing. Because they’re doing that investigation on the whole UAE tie-in. So, I don’t know. I would just say, I think the citizens should probably look into it themselves. And that’s.

[00:34:41] Rico: Yeah, I mean that should definitely be, not for anything, but that should definitely be fact checked. Because, and I don’t have the facilities to do that here. But anyone with critical thinking in mind should be able to fact check that and for their own sake. Because listen. Other countries like the UAE can do that. Let’s say they can declare an organization as a terrorist organization, but if it’s not on the United States watch list or such. I’m not saying that that’s wrong or anything, but every country has their own agenda and what they try, what they’re going to be calling what. And we’ve seen that with the Saudis and other countries. So I would put anyone that’s listening to this aspect of it that they should check on that themselves.

[00:35:22] John: A hundred percent. Yeah.

[00:35:24] Rico: Okay. Alright, cool. So John, so what I’m gonna do, I’m gonna turn this over to you. I’m going to ask you to ask for the vote. Tell people why this show vote for you, and where they can find out more information.

[00:35:36] John: Okay. So I feel like I’m a very strong candidate for this because I’ve worked with so many different people of all different walks of life. Different cultures, different socioeconomic backgrounds, different ethnicities. And I’ve been able to get all of these people to work together to attain great things, great accomplishments, great goals. And I’ve been doing this for over 30 years. I’ve had a company for quite some time. And we grew the company from zero to 120 plus employees. And in doing that, it’s like you meet all kinds of different people and you get to really see how different people are and how they think and work with them and make a better company or make a better product. Or in this case, make a better district 97, make a better Georgia. And basically include everybody you know? That’s one of the things I love about what I do. I travel quite extensively and I love meeting people from all over the place. And yeah, you go down to, like I said, the bayou in Louisiana and somebody’s wading waste deep in alligator infested water and they think nothing of it. And just to meet somebody like that and understand their mentality behind it is very interesting. So I love all these different people that I’ve met and how I can get them to attain a great goal. And that’s what I bring to this seat. Basically being able to work with a lot of people and not being a politician of always pointing to the other side and saying they’re bad for some reason. But that you include everybody and get everybody working. Be fiscally responsible, because I feel that sometimes government isn’t that way. But as a business owner, you’ve got to understand fiscal responsibility and make sure that money is spent correctly. So yeah, I want to make sure that I do everything I can to handle the inflation, the crime so that people feel safe and secure in their homes and when they go out. And that we help fix the education system. So if you go to www.JohnChan4.Ga.com, you can go in there and sign up as a volunteer. You can go in there and donate. We could definitely use some donations right now and gosh, I would love to have your vote come November 8th.

[00:38:18] Rico: Cool. John, I appreciate your time today doing this podcast with me. Hang in there with me for a second while I just sign off. But everyone, thanks for listening in. Share this with your friends. If you’re listening to this as an audio podcast on Spotify or Apple, please leave a review. That’s how more people can find out about our podcast. If you’re looking at this on Facebook or YouTube feel free to share it among your friends. To find out a little bit more us, Peachtree Corners Life, about Peachtree Corners Magazine. This is the latest issue, just came out, hitting the post office this week. By the time you watch this, you should have it in hand. If not, let me know. You can find out more about our podcast at LivinginPeachtreeCorners.com as well. Also, thank you again to Eli and EV Remodeling, Inc. for being our sponsor of these podcasts and for being an advertiser and supporter of our journalism here in Peachtree Corners. John, thank you again. I appreciate you coming out.

[00:39:17] John: Thanks so much. It was great being here.

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What to know about voter registration and municipal elections in Peachtree Corners

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On this episode of Peachtree Corners Life, Diane Fisher, a representative from the League of Women Voters Gwinnett chapter, delves into the world of voter registration and municipal elections in Georgia. With the implementation of automatic voter registration and the upcoming municipal elections in Peachtree Corners, Fisher sheds light on the importance of informed voting and active participation. From understanding address updates to exploring the power of thoughtful voting, listeners will gain valuable insights on enhancing voter engagement in their community. This podcast serves as a guide for residents to make their voices heard and shape the future of Peachtree Corners, Georgia.

Diane’s Email: Fisher@lwvga.org League of Women Voters
Website: https://www.lwv.org/local-leagues/lwv-gwinnett-county
Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/lwvgwinnettcounty/

“Being a prepared voter means being an informed voter. It’s not just about the presidential election, but about all the congressional seats, the House and Senate seats, and county positions. So, there will be an awful lot on that ballot. Knowing when and who is on the ballot is crucial for an informed vote.”

Diane Fisher

Time Stamp

0:00:00 – Introduction
0:01:54 – Voter registration process and information for new residents in Georgia
0:05:13 – Voter maintenance and the importance of updating voter registration
0:08:34 – Absentee voting process and how to request an absentee ballot
0:10:52 – Municipal elections in Peachtree Corners, Georgia
0:17:18 – Being a prepared voter for the 2024 elections
0:20:37 – The need to know who’s on the ballot
0:21:31 – Sharing personal experience about involvement in politics
0:23:02 – Misleading information and the importance of understanding the ballot
0:23:45 – Lesser-known positions on the ballot and the impact of voters’ knowledge
0:25:42 – Thoughtful voting and participation in local elections
0:28:04 – Encouraging voters to engage with candidates and attend events
0:29:39 – The process for third-party and write-in candidates in Georgia for the 2024 elections
0:31:25 – Seeking additional information that Georgia voters should know
0:33:28 – Advising voters to verify their voting location due to possible changes
0:34:17 – Closing

Podcast Transcript

Rico Figliolini 0:00:00

Hi, everyone. This is Rico Figliolini, host of Peachtree Corners Life. Appreciate everyone joining us. We have a special guest today from the League of Women Voters, Diane Fisher. Hey, Diane, thanks for joining me.

Diane Fisher 0:00:11

Nice to be here.

Rico Figliolini 0:00:13

Yeah, this is going to be a good educational podcast. We’re going to be discussing how to be a prepared voter and everything that comes with that for 2024 and municipal elections. But before we get to that, I just want to thank our sponsors, Clearwave Fiber, our corporate sponsor. They’re an internet providing business here in Peachtree Corners, serving over a thousand businesses. Peachtree Corners Life, they’re actually based in the Southeast, and they provide better than what you would expect from a cable provider. Fast Internet connection, great support, especially to businesses and residents. So check them out. Clearwave Fiber also check out EV Remodeling, Inc. Eli, who is the owner of the company. Him and his family live here in Peachtree Corners. It’s a great business. They do design to build renovation work. Lots of good activity out there, lots of good references for them. So check them out, Evremodelinginc.com, and you’ll be able to find out a little bit more about our two supporters that way. So let’s get right into the show. Diane, I appreciate you joining us. League of Women Voters, it’s been around for quite a while. You are the Gwinnett chapter of the organization, correct?

Diane Fisher 0:01:28

We are the Gwinnett chapter. The national organization has been around since 1920, founded out of the movement for women’s suffrage. And we in Gwinnett in this iteration, have been around since 2019. Comes and goes. And so it is relatively new coming back. And so that’s where we are now.

Rico Figliolini 0:01:54

Excellent. So I saw you, I met you at the Peachtree Corners Festival, which is part of what you all do, outreach to the community. And you were out there, I think, at the time when I passed, you were registering a new voter that came on and she was asking questions so similar to what we’re going to do here. We want to know a little bit about how if you’re a new voter and you haven’t voted yet, or if you just moved to the state of Georgia and you have to register here to vote. Because obviously, from where someone comes from, you have to register in the state that you’re going to be voting in at the residence that you’re going to be voting in. So tell us a little bit about what would be needed for someone to register new here in the state of Georgia and Gwinnett County.

Diane Fisher 0:02:40

Sure. So in Georgia, we have automatic voter registration through the DDS, through driver services. And so when anyone gets a new license or changes an address on a license or does anything with DDS, they actually are automatically registered to vote. So we actually have very high voter registration in Georgia because of that. What doesn’t happen, though, is sometimes people you know move down the street, sometimes they move across town, sometimes they move within a county, sometimes they move out of the county. And you do, as you mentioned, need to be registered to vote at your current address. And so it’s important for everyone to make sure that they take care of making sure that that happens. Because sometimes people don’t always update a license in a timely fashion, but they actually move. And the reason why it’s linked to where you live is because who you vote for is determined by where you live, what precincts, and so it is important that you are registered your current address so you can always check. One of the best resources for checking the status of your registration is the Secretary of State has their website which is MVP, SOS ga gov and if you put in your name and birth date and county you can find out where you’re registered to, if you’re registered, where you’re registered, what precincts you vote for, where you vote. All of that information is available on that site. And so we encourage every voter before every election to check the status of their registration, to make sure that everything is above board, that it’s where you need it to be and that nothing happened. Because there is a list maintenance that happens as a regular part of the process and sometimes people are put moved to inactive status if they miss a notice or something like that. So we just always want to make sure that everybody checks their status, which makes sense.

Rico Figliolini 0:04:55

I just did that for two of my kids, I showed them how to do it because they hadn’t voted since they hadn’t voted. So I think one of them, in a decade maybe voted once and I said there’s maintenance, they could purge you from the list and they were still on the list, right?

Diane Fisher 0:05:13

So if you don’t vote in two federal election cycles, then you are moved to inactive status and that starts a process of eventually dropping you off the roll. So you’re not obligated to vote in elections. But obviously we encourage everyone to vote, but it is important to respond to those kinds of requests that you get because they probably did get some kind of notice in the mail indicating that, questioning if they are still at address, that they live, that they were registered, right, no doubt.

Rico Figliolini 0:05:48

And I think younger people have a bit more of a problem following that up because it’s not on their to do list, obviously. I think the demographics show that older people more regularly, younger people less regularly, unless it’s a presidential race and even still sometimes it just depends. And COVID hasn’t helped either, people moving back home with their parents, whether they moved in from out of state, maybe they still wanted to vote for if they were living in New York, maybe they still wanted to do an absentee ballot back up there, and that’s possible, but they wouldn’t be able to vote down, right, right.

Diane Fisher 0:06:26

You can only be registered to vote in one location. And quite honestly, one thing that people don’t know is that if you register so say you move I’ll use your example from New York and you move to Georgia and you register to vote in Georgia. There is not a process like an automatic unregistering. You from New York, you actually have to request that. My daughter, when she moved out of state, it took us a long time to get her off of the voter rolls, know, because you actually have to request that to happen. Most people do not think that that’s something that they have to do. And that’s why sometimes the roles are not updated or updated. You might show up on a place where you have no intention of voting and never voted because you’ve moved and you just didn’t think that you need to do anything about it.

Rico Figliolini 0:07:17

Sure, I think you’re right. Most of my friends would not even think about, oh, I need to know if someone know. Technically, you could end up doing a mail in ballot to New York, let’s say, and vote here, and no one would know the difference, apparently. Obviously we don’t want that happening.

Diane Fisher 0:07:39

There have been cases before the state election board that come, people being caught doing that, and it is not situation. So yes, that is illegal.

Rico Figliolini 0:07:50

It’s a federal offense.

Diane Fisher 0:07:51

It is a federal offense. That is certainly not something that we encourage. And most people who register, they move someplace, they register, they have no intention of voting elsewhere. But young people particularly, or people who are transient, it does mean that you have to pay a little bit more attention and make a plan to vote. I think it’s also important to think about not just being registered, it’s then knowing when elections are, knowing what your plan will be. Will you vote absentee, will you vote early advanced voting, will you vote on election day? What’s that plan? To make sure that you’re actually being able to vote.

Rico Figliolini 0:08:34

So in the state of Georgia, if I’m going on vacation or even an absentee, you don’t need an excuse for an absentee ballot. You can ask for that.

Diane Fisher 0:08:44

Right.

Rico Figliolini 0:08:45

So you could go online to one of the sites or which site to go to to get an absentee ballot.

Diane Fisher 0:08:51

Yes. So that depends on the election. And I will say, and I only raise that because we’re coming up on municipal elections here in Gwinnett County, actually statewide, but also specifically here in Peachtree Corners and in Gwinnett, the county does not run the municipal elections. Every city runs their own municipal election. So the answer for coming up for the November 7 election, which will be the municipal election here in Peachtree Corners, is that you need to request the absentee ballot from the county clerk in Peachtree Corners. And if you go to the website, you can get that information. There’s a form there that you can request the absentee ballot for the Peachtree Corners election. Typically for every other election, you would go to the county. Well, actually either the Secretary of state’s website or the county Board of elections office, and you can get the form there. One of the changes that happened in election forms is that you can’t register just on an online portal anymore. You have to print out the application because it has to have a wet signature. It has to actually have an actual signature on it. So you have to print off the form, fill it out, sign it, and then you can send it back digitally. But you can’t just I think there was a time when there was a portal where you could just go on and put in your information and request it. So now you have to print out the form and then return it to the county election office.

Rico Figliolini 0:10:29

But you can scan that form, return.

Diane Fisher 0:10:31

It digitally, scan it, or take a photo of it, and then email it back to the elections office and do it.

Rico Figliolini 0:10:40

So they’re just forcing you to print it out to do that website, which.

Diane Fisher 0:10:45

Means that you now have to have access to a printer, right?

Rico Figliolini 0:10:49

How many people do know?

Diane Fisher 0:10:52

And so that is the process now and where you go. And again, because Gwinnett is unusual, Gwinnett’s one of the few counties in Georgia that the municipalities run their own elections. Most other counties in the area, Fulton, Jacab, the counties run the municipal elections as well. And so what that means for us here in Gwinnett and in Peachtree Corners is that when you go to vote on election day for the municipal elections, you will not go to your regular location where you normally would are used to voting. So at Simpson elementary or at Peachtree Corners Baptist Church or any of the different locations where you always go to your regular precinct location, everybody in Peachtree Corners for the municipal election will vote at City Hall, down around in the room, around the bottom, the community trust room, around the left side of the building. That’s where elections are held for the county, for the city, I’m sorry, for the city.

Rico Figliolini 0:12:02

And there’s one open seat, one open contested seat, I should say.

Diane Fisher 0:12:09

Every other election cycle we would have. So in this case, on the ballot is the mayor, post one, post three, and post five. So the only contested seat is the post five. And post five is an at large seat. And so that means that everybody, Peachtree Corners will vote for that seat. Post one and three are geographically defined, so the first three posts are based on geography. So post one, I think, is the southern section. And then three is the sort of the northern part of Peachtree Corners. So Alex Wright, Is and Phil Sod are in those seats, and those are uncontested seats. And then, of course, the mayor’s race is also citywide, and that is uncontested as well.

Rico Figliolini 0:13:07

So people understand this, come November, you’re going to have to go to two different places to do this.

Diane Fisher 0:13:15

No, the only election in 2020, right. The only election in 2023 is the municipal election.

Rico Figliolini 0:13:23

That’s right.

Diane Fisher 0:13:23

There have been times when you’ve had to go to two places because there were simultaneous elections, but that is not the case now. So November 7 and actually early voting and early voting does start for the municipal election on Monday, October 16. So Monday through Friday from October 16 through November 3 and then October 21 and October 20 Eighth, which are Saturdays from nine to five, is early voting. So you can go for three weeks early voting, including two Saturdays. And then, of course, on Election Day is seven to 07:00 a.m. To 07:00 P.m., election Day, November 7, and that will be just at the City Hall. If you go to your regular polling location, there won’t be anything going on there other than school or church or whatever might be happening.

Rico Figliolini 0:14:19

So people should also be aware, I think, when they send in the absentee ballot, how long do they have? How does it get date stamped if it arrives three days later? I mean, how is that process explain?

Diane Fisher 0:14:32

So, legally, your absentee ballot needs to arrive, in this case, City Hall by 07:00 P.m. On Election day. If it gets there the next day, it’s not going to count. It has to arrive. So if you’re going to be voting with an absentee ballot, you need to make sure that you’ve planned ahead to request it. And I would say request it like today. When you hear this, make sure you request it, and then as soon as it comes, fill it out. And you can actually I mean, if you are local and you’re just going to be out of town, you can actually just bring it down to City Hall. Worry about the postal service. Obviously, if you’re a student who lives out of the area, needs to mail it again, do all of that life ASAP, because the time is a very limited window.

Rico Figliolini 0:15:31

Okay. And just because I’m thinking along this line, if someone was going to drop it off, like if I was going to drop off my son’s ballot, I could drop that off at City Hall. That’s okay.

Diane Fisher 0:15:42

Yes, you can drop off a ballot for immediate family, relatives, so your wife, your kids, a parent. You can’t, though, start collecting from people in your neighborhood and bringing those in, but for close family.

Rico Figliolini 0:16:00

Okay. All right, that sounds good. So the League of Women Voters is known for providing good nonpartisan information to get people to do to vote, to fulfill their civic responsibilities and all. And we talked a little bit about what it means to be a prepared voter before we started. So tell us a little bit, Diane, what does it mean to be a prepared voter going to 2024 into the presidential race, election year, where there’s going to be a lot on the ballot, I’m sure in a variety of states, but even here in Georgia, sure, because.

Diane Fisher 0:17:59

It’s not just about the presidential election. There will be all the congressional seats, there will be all of the House, the Georgia House seats and the Georgia Senate seats. There will be county positions, all of the county constitutional positions will be on the ballot. So there will be an awful lot on that ballot. And so being prepared voter means being an informed voter. So obviously, the first is to know when you need to be voting. And there are lots of elections in 2024, starting in March. The presidential preferential primary will be in March. Then we’ve got the regular primaries in May, and then we’ve got November elections and then any runoffs that may need to happen as well. So there will be a lot of elections. So it’s not just go in and vote once and be done with it. So that’s one thing knowing when all those different elections are. The second is knowing who’s on the ballot. And through that MVP site that I mentioned earlier, the MVP. SOS Ga gov, you can pull up it’s not available right now, but it will be available for 2024. All of who is on your ballot, you can pull up sample ballots. And so that will be really helpful to know ahead of time because I hear people all the time saying, like, I got into the polling booth and I had no idea that there were all of those things on the ballot. I wasn’t prepared. And so you can be prepared by pulling up the sample ballot and actually marking, doing your research. And there are lots of different ways to get information. There are candidate forums. Certainly the candidates themselves are out there putting information out. Will. The league is known for doing candidate information forums as well, and we likely will be doing particularly for our county races. The state may be doing some larger scale ones, but here in Gwinnett, the Gwinnett League focuses very much on what’s happening here in so, you know, doing your research in terms of getting information about not only what’s on the ballot, but then being able to check out the candidates so that you know who aligns with your values and with the things that are important to you. And so that becomes part of the conversation it’s important to have.

Rico Figliolini 0:20:37

Yeah. Coming from New York, I was involved quite a bit in political politics when I was younger, 1820. You see the things that go on, the amount of so doing it for such a long period of time to hear people say, I’m not prepared, or I don’t know who’s on the ballot. It gets really frustrating when there is a lot of information out there between news outlets. Granted, there’s a variety of news outlets, so some agendas on some of these outlets, but for the most part, you’ll be able to get the information out there. Candidates are especially local candidates are doing more door to door campaigning. You will get it inundated with mail, right? I mean, last year or the year before was just ridiculous. The amount of mail that was going out, literally three or four postcards a day coming in.

Diane Fisher 0:21:31

And you have to be careful about that mail because it’s not just the candidates who are sending out mail now. It’s all kinds of organizations, and some of the information is not always accurate or it’s political spin. And so I think if you’re looking to find out candidates positions on things, that’s where it’s important to look at various sorts. So the league does run nationally, a website called Vote Four One One, where we reach out to candidates to get their input so that you can hear from them what they believe about certain things. So we ask questions. There are other sort of neutral, if you will, sites. Alopecia has sort of a candidate profile site. So there are ways that you can get sort of just factual information candidates, as opposed to sort of the political spin that can sometimes make noise. And so we do encourage, but at the very least, pull up that ballot to say, this is what’s going to be on there. So you don’t get in and say, I didn’t know county, the clerk of the court, I don’t even know what that is. Those are the things that sort of sneak up on people.

Rico Figliolini 0:23:02

I mean, they’re lesser known positions. They get less exposure. People either tend to skip over them or they tend to, depending on the politics, tend to either vote for the incumbent because there’s an eye next to it, because that seems safer, or if they want to stir the pot, they’re voting for the other candidate to come in. It’s a variety of reasons, right, that people vote.

Diane Fisher 0:23:24

Right.

Rico Figliolini 0:23:24

And then there’s referendums on the ballot, and because they’re written in such legalese, sometimes you may be reading it in that moment at the ballot box and not realize really what it’s saying, because some of it’s written in such a way, you would think, oh, that’s easy, that’s what that means. And then you find out later, no, that’s not what that meant.

Diane Fisher 0:23:45

Right. If I vote yes, it’s actually voting against. That’s right, because of the way that it’s written. Right. And so I think that those referendum and those also those are available, you’ll be able to pull those up on your sample ballot at the MVP site so that you can actually see it and read it and do your research. I mean, I know that I sit down when my kids were first voting, we would sit down and literally go through the ballot and research candidates together. And the referendum questions, even life, talk about what they mean and what the pros and cons, and if we didn’t have an answer, we disagreed or whatever, we talk about it. Sometimes we disagreed and they would vote one way and I would vote a different way. But point being that having that conversation and being informed because that is how we citizens are being able to make sure that what we want is actually happening. I mean, you hear so often people saying like, it doesn’t really matter who I vote for if I vote, because it just doesn’t matter, my voice doesn’t matter. Well, it matters if you do it thoughtfully. And if everybody were to participate, then we’re all in a better place. Here in Peachtree Corners, just going back, we have 27,000 registered voters, and in the last six municipal elections, the most we’ve ever had is a 10% turnout. So like 2700 voters. So when people complaining about whatever they might be complaining about, about the city, you need to actually vote to have your perspective put forward.

Rico Figliolini 0:25:42

It’s the frustrating part. Yeah. When I read things on nextdoor and people say, these people, they have an agenda, this is what they want to do, and it’s like it doesn’t take much. You’re right. Sometimes there’s more than 2700 votes. Right. There’s more than that, depending on the year now, really.

Diane Fisher 0:26:05

More than 10% of the voting. I think that when we first became a city that was a higher turnout, but since then, yeah, it’s a very small and we know there are elections that have been won by 15 votes, there are elections that have been won by one vote. And so especially in these smaller elections, makes it more important to get out there and have your voice heard.

Rico Figliolini 0:26:39

Yeah, especially because, I mean, in small elections like this, it depends on how many friends you have. You’re right. There was one election, I think was the last election that we had, where it was a 14 vote difference or something along those lines. If you want to make change. You have to be involved. You have to knock doors. You can’t just send postcards. You have to meet your neighbors, your voters, and figure it out.

Diane Fisher 0:27:10

I will say, I think candidates these days are very open to certainly the local candidates, the county positions, the state House representatives, and so mean you can go onto their websites, know, ask for a meeting. They will meet with you. And I think that that is important. And it’s important to meet with not just the people who you think you might agree with, but also the other side to hear what they stand for and what they plan on doing. And I think that we are in a time when it is easy to access your candidates, particularly at the more local levels, and go to events that they’re having or send an email and say, I’d love to talk to you. Will you have coffee with me?

Rico Figliolini 0:28:04

Right. Yeah. Some of them will put out their cell phone numbers, and you can literally call them and talk to them because how many people in their district, how many people actually can actually call their representatives? And I think people should be aware that their representative is they’re there to be able to expedite things. The constituent service, if they have a problem with government that rep, that represents you, is there to help make things easier or to at least guide you into what you need to do. They’re there for a reason. They work for you. I know that’s, like everyone says, they work for me. But they do work for you, and you’re the one that votes them in, and you should be able to they’re there to represent you. So to fill a purpose that way.

Diane Fisher 0:28:52

Yeah. You have resources and access that we don’t have, and they’re happy to facilitate things for us. Yes.

Rico Figliolini 0:29:00

So let me ask you. I’m a bit of a political junkie, but you don’t know about Georgia politics as much as I probably should after being here since 95. But now that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. For example, decides he’s going to run as an independent candidate because the Democratic Party, according to him, has not given him the right for a debate or to run properly, they’ve changed the rules a bit, I guess. What happens with a third party candidate in 2024 when you live in the state of Georgia? Can you do a write in on a candidate like that?

Diane Fisher 0:29:39

So, two different things. There is a process for being put on the ballot as a third party candidate. And my presumption, I mean, we’ll often find a Green Party candidate on the ballot or things. So there is a process for that. Write ins are a whole nother story in Georgia. So I know a lot of people know, I’m going to write it in my husband, I’m going to write my neighbor, or I’m going to write in whatever you actually have to register to be a write in candidate. So only, the only write in votes that will count are people who have gone through the process of actually registering to be a writing candidate. If you don’t write in one of those people, it’s not going to count. So they don’t do a tally of all of those. Rico you couldn’t get 100 votes as a write in because unless you obviously go, yeah, so that notion of sort, I’m just going to write somebody in, in Georgia, it’s not possible. The different part, you do not have to be just a Republican or a Democrat to show up on ballot. There are processes for being a registered candidate from whatever party it happens to be.

Rico Figliolini 0:31:11

What should a Georgia voter know that we haven’t covered that may be trivial or not trivial, but detail that most people know that we should mean? Is there anything gone over?

Diane Fisher 0:31:25

So I will say that one of the things that I always say about voters is voters are creatures of habit. So if the last election I showed up and voted in this location, and I voted in that location for the past three elections or ten elections or 20 elections, don’t always presume that things stay the same. We know that we just had so, for example, we know that we just had redistricting with the census and numbers have shifted. And so there is a shifting of precincts and so on. And most of the time you’re going to stay in the same place, but always, again, check to make sure that you know where you’re voting. And just because you always voted at Simpson or New Age building or wherever it might be, don’t presume that that’s where you voted last time, that’s where you’re going to vote this time. Because sometimes because of the ways that the numbers have shifted, they shift. So again, I think it’s really important to always check, even if you think I’m pretty involved, and I check my voter page periodically and certainly before every election, just to make sure that, first of all, my precincts, not just the precinct is the same, but that I know who I’m voting for. Because we know that there were changes in congressional seats and House and Senate races and even County Commission seats. We have a new County Commission situation now from a couple of years ago. And so just knowing where the lines are, because the lines do sometimes change. So I think that that’s something that particularly coming right off of the redistricting situation that we had. If you haven’t voted recently since the last election, you may find that things have changed a little bit.

Rico Figliolini 0:33:28

Makes sense. I know that state House and Senate seats have changed. People have disappeared, or they’ve been drawn out of a district that they were in.

Diane Fisher 0:33:40

They may be running, and the lines have just changed. The numbers have changed. The lines have changed. Yeah, it’s.

Rico Figliolini 0:33:46

Amazing. So it really should go to that website that they have mentioned, MVP.

Diane Fisher 0:33:50

SOS ga gov, if you just remember MVP, if you start typing in MVP and in Georgia it’ll show up. And that really is if you remember one thing from this conversation, I would say remember that. And then the other piece is remember that for the upcoming election in Peachtree Corners, you’re going to be voting at City Hall right.

Rico Figliolini 0:34:17

For 2023. All right, cool. I think we covered quite a bit. We’ve given places that people can go. Is there anything else that you want to share, Diane?

Diane Fisher 0:34:31

I don’t think just I think if we want our government and our society to work for us and we need to be actively engaged with the process and the League of Women Voters is always happy to give information. I get calls all the time, emails from friends, neighbors, people across the county asking questions. So you can always call the county election office. But if you I’m a local Peachtree Corners gal, people are welcome to reach out to me. It’s Fisher@lwvga.org and I’m happy to answer any questions that you have.

Rico Figliolini 0:35:13

Cool. If anyone wants to volunteer for the League of Women Voters, they can reach out to you.

Diane Fisher 0:35:18

Absolutely. We are always looking for new members. As I said, we are relatively new in this iteration and we started right in 2019 and just as we got our feet wet and going COVID happened. And so we are eager to engage people who want to do voter education, voter registration work, helping people. We are nonpartisan. We do not support candidates or parties. So we really are just wanting to make sure that people have the information that they need to be able to exercise their rights.

Rico Figliolini 0:35:54

Excellent. Doing great work. I mean, that’s the biggest battle, getting people educated because walking into that booth, not knowing three quarters of that ballot would be the worst thing to be doing. So I appreciate, Diane, your time with us. We had a little power outage before so this recording took a little later than it was and there was not even a storm cloud in the sky and yet we had a power outage. So go figure. But appreciate you helping with educating our listeners on this. Thank you everyone for being with us. All these links will be in the show notes as well. But do remember MVP, I think if you put MVP elections, it’ll probably pop right up as the first thing on that page. But thanks again, Diane, and appreciate your time.

Diane Fisher 0:36:41

Thanks for having me.

Rico Figliolini 0:36:42

Sure.

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Advocating in a Different Way

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Lorri Christopher

Lorri Christopher will remain active in the community but wants to pave the way for the next generation of local leadership.

When it comes to Peachtree Corners City Post 5 Councilmember Lorri Christopher, her actions speak for her. Not one to raise a ruckus, her four decades as a resident of the area before it became a city had been chock full of leadership in business, education, and community service.

With all she has accomplished, it shouldn’t be a surprise that this 80-year-old woman with the stamina of the Energizer Bunny has decided she won’t be running for re-election when her term expires in 2024.

“I’m not going to stop advocating for the city,” she said. “I’ll still be Lorri Christopher. I just won’t be a city council member.”

Lorri Christopher in 2021 received the “Rotarian of The Year Award” and within days she was one of seven winners (out of 90 finalists) named in Gwinnett Chamber’s annual Moxie Awards. Lorri received the “Greater Good Award” from the chamber in August 2021. (Top photo by George Hunter.)

A life filled with achievements and successes

Christopher’s bio on the Peachtree Corners website points to a career brimming with numerous titles. Here are a few:

  • Principal in CAP Associates, a human resources consulting firm
  • Computer Information Systems (CIS) Faculty Program and IA Director at Gwinnett Technical College
  • Trustee of the Gwinnett Senior Leadership program
  • Former IT Project Manager for the 1996 Olympics
  • High school Math and Science teacher,
  • Management Information System (MIS) Director and CIS Program Chair at Trident College
  • COO of Atlanta Desktop
  • Co-president of United Mortgage Company
  • Marketing Director of Right Associates
  • Vice President at Midland Associates
  • Vice President of Finance and Management Information System (MIS) for Edwards, Inc.
  • Marketing and technical leadership positions at DCA and Burroughs/Unisys, and
  • Founding Director of Paces Bank & Trust.

Christopher has been well-recognized through the years. She is a recipient of the 21st Century Award from The International Alliance, Atlanta Business Chronicle’s Distributive Education Clubs of America (DECA) award, and the Triumph Inspiration 21st Century Woman Award. Christopher is also a member of the Young Women’s Christian Association (YWCA) Academy of Women Achievers.

Her accomplishments include service to the community, business, and charity organizations. Christopher served on the leadership committee for the Center for the Study of the Presidency, chaired the Gwinnett County March of Dimes, and served on the Georgia Alliance for Children Board.

She is a member of several chambers of commerce, including the Gwinnett, Hispanic, Southwest Gwinnett, and Atlanta chambers, as well as the Gwinnett Village Alliance Board. Christopher is a past officer of Fox Hill homeowners’ association and a member-volunteer for United Peachtree Corners Civic Association (UPCCA), Peachtree Corners Business Association (PCBA), and the Peachtree Corners Festival.

Then there’s her education. Currently a Ph.D. candidate in Information Systems at Nova Southeastern University, Christopher holds an MBA in Business and Finance from Emory University, an MBA in Global Ecommerce from Georgia State University, and a BA in Mathematics and Chemistry from the State University of New York. She has additional graduate studies in CIS at Georgia Tech and Education at Hofstra University — and she holds a number of professional certifications.

“I worked in Peachtree Corners in the 70s and 80s in the Summit Building. Our technology firm, Burroughs/Unisys, was located there where we developed financial applications for the world …we had over 400 people in that facility,” she told Peachtree Corners Magazine in a 2019 podcast. “So, I’ve seen Tech Park when it was in its heyday. I’ve seen it since, and it is so exciting with what’s happening now.”

She added that seeing the vision that she and several others had for the area during the cityhood movement more than a decade ago now coming to fruition makes the hard work worth it.

A vision that’s blossoming

Besides the business growth and economic development, Christopher said she is proud that the city has remained one of the few that doesn’t collect property taxes from its homeowners. And instead of building a city hall right off the bat, Peachtree Corners officials chose to turn the Town Center property into a place for people to gather and be together. 

“We’ve worked really hard at keeping the millage zero and being fiscally responsible,” she said.

Christopher is a pioneer in her own right, blazing a path in Information Technology when women were often relegated to administrative support roles instead of heading departments.

After college, she’d gone back home to Charleston, S.C., and was offered a position as Chief Financial Officer and IT Director for a chain of stores where she’d worked as a cashier in her youth. Even back then, Christopher realized that she didn’t have to tell anyone what she could do — she just had to show them.

That’s what she hopes for the future of Peachtree Corners. She doesn’t want future leaders judged by anything more than their credentials.

It’s that kind of stewardship that Christopher said she’s looking for in her successor. She has someone in mind but insists that she’ll back anyone who has the knowledge, passion, and energy to continue the work that was begun more than a decade ago.

Christopher hopes someone will bring Peachtree Corners into its next phase with diversity and inclusion. “I’d like there to be more people who don’t look like me involved in city government,” she said. “I think it’s important that we do everything we can to make sure that we’re an inclusive city.”

Passing the baton

From the outside looking in, many people may not see the pockets of need in this seemingly affluent area.

Christopher would like the city to start receiving federal funds to pay for things like a homeless shelter. “We don’t have a plan for people that are indigent,” she said recalling a section of Spring Drive that had no streetlights for seven years. “It took too long to get lights there and that subdivision has over 200 homes,” she said.

Even though it’s impressive to gather a list of titles, Christopher stressed she does what she does because it’s the right thing to do — and she wants to see the city continue doing what’s right.

“I don’t want to be one of those people who die in office,” she said. “The City of Peachtree Corners is going to go on long, long after I’m gone. I see my decision as making room for another person.”

Photos by George Hunter

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What to Know About Ballot Questions — SPLOSTs, Amendments and Referendums

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Before you head to the polls to vote, it’s a good idea to be aware of some of the questions you’ll face on the ballot. Peachtree Corners Councilman Eric Christ included the following information in his recent newsletter, along with his insights.

Voters may want to do some further investigation on the ballot questions.

SPLOST and other ballot questions

In addition to the Federal, State and County races on the ballot, there are also five questions for Gwinnett voters to decide. You will see these questions at the bottom on your ballot, so be sure to scroll all the way down.

Gwinnett SPLOST Renewal Referendum

Question: Shall the one percent sales tax in Gwinnett be renewed for a period of six years commencing on April 1, 2023 to raise an estimated amount of $1.35 billion to fund courthouse facility renovation, transportation (roads, streets, bridges, sidewalks and related facilities and equipment), public safety facilities and equipment, park, trail and recreational facilities and equipment, senior services facilities, animal welfare facility renovation, fleet management facility expansion, city administrative facilities and equipment, city water, sewer and utility capital improvements, etc.?

Christ explained, “If it passes, the existing 1% Gwinnett sales tax (in place since 1997) will be continued for another six years. The sales tax is charged on purchases within the county, and it is estimated that 30% to 40% of the taxes are collected from people residing outside of the county who shop in Gwinnett.

The taxes collected are split between the county and the 16 cities in Gwinnett. The City of Peachtree Corners is projected to receive $58 million over the six years and has allocated these funds as follows: 80% to Transportation (roads, streets, sidewalks, etc. and related equipment); 9% to Administrative Facilities; and 11% to other Capital Projects.”

On the other hand, if it doesn’t pass, “the county sales tax will end in March 2023 and Gwinnett County and its cities will have to make up a $225 million annual gap in revenues for each of the next six years by increasing other taxes and/or by cancelling projects,” Christ said.

Constitutional Amendment #1

Question: Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to suspend the compensation of the state-wide elected officials or any member of the General Assembly while such individual is suspended from office following an indictment for a felony?

Christ said that if it passes, Georgia will become the first state to stop paying the salary of an elected official immediately upon being indicted for a felony and prior to their trial. He noted that other states only do this if the official is found guilty after a trial.

“If the Georgia elected official is found not guilty or the charges are dismissed, the suspended pay will be reimbursed,” he added. “If it doesn’t pass, the current law that stops salary payments if the official is found guilty of a felony will continue.”

Constitutional Amendment #2

Question: Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so that the local governing authority can grant temporary tax relief to properties within its jurisdiction which are severely damaged or destroyed as a result of a disaster?

According to Christ, if it passes, counties, cities and school boards will be able to make temporary adjustments to property tax after a natural disaster so property owners whose property has been severely damaged or destroyed don’t have to pay some or all of the property tax.

“If it doesn’t pass, property owners will have to pay the full property tax [as valued at the start of the year] even if their property has been severely damaged or destroyed,” he said.

State Referendum A

Question: Shall the Act be approved which grants a state-wide exemption from all ad valorem taxes for certain equipment used by timber producers in the production or harvest of timber?

If it passes, timber producers will be exempt from property (ad valorem) taxes on some of their equipment,” Christ noted. “If it doesn’t pass, timber producers will continue to pay the same taxes they do now.”

State Referendum B

Question: Shall the Act be approved which expands a state-wide exemption from ad valorem taxes for agricultural equipment and certain farm products held by certain entities to include entities comprising two or more family-owned farm entities, and which adds dairy products and unfertilized eggs of poultry as qualified farm products with respect to such exemption?

If it passes, family-owned farms and dairy and egg farms will be exempt from property taxes on some of their equipment,” Christ said. “If it doesn’t pass family-owned farms and dairy and egg farms will continue to pay the same taxes they do now.”

A further explanation of this Referendum can be found here.

A sample ballot for Gwinnett voters can be found here.

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