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“Stay Positive” Debbie Mason’s Journey with a Daunting Diagnosis (podcast)
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Cancer is never a diagnosis you want to hear. Debbie Mason, active resident of Peachtree Corners and wife of Mayor Mike Mason has faced ups and downs in her battle with this terrifying diagnosis. In this follow-up episode to the article in Peachtree Corners Magazine, Debbie and Mike share the story of their incredible journey.
Time stamp:
[00:00:30] – Opening
[00:02:05] – Routine Testing
[00:05:21] – The Diagnosis
[00:07:51] – Treatment and Complications
[00:16:01] – Love, Support and Prayers
[00:18:07] – Changing Priorities
[00:20:57] – Mike’s Feelings
[00:24:33] – Dealing with COVID
[00:25:53] – Next Steps
[00:30:10] – Closing
“I’ve clearly felt the love… I’ve been told that I have a whole city of people praying for me. And I felt that prayer, I actually can feel it. So it humbles you. Because usually I’m on the other end of the giving, in all my years of doing all that I do. I’m usually the one doing for people.”
Debbie mason
Podcast Transcript
Rico: [00:00:30] Hi everyone. This is Rico Figliolini host of Peachtree Corners Life, the podcast that talks about everything that’s happening in the city of Peachtree Corners. And shares the stories that are out there of people that are working in this community, playing in this community, living here. Sometimes we also do podcasts as follow up to articles in our magazine, Peachtree Corners magazine Tonight is one such podcast. We have a story in this latest issue about a young woman. I’ll call her a young woman because young at heart, right? She’s with us, her and her husband. They’re going to share a story and a journey that I think is important for everyone to know because of how it came about and because of what she’s going through. It’s interesting in a time of social distancing though, in a way of life that we’ve all become accustomed to, right? Because of the pandemic, because we’re afraid of catching Coronavirus 19. But washing our hands we’re doing social distancing, we’re facing these challenges and yet among our lives among other people, there are other challenges that within the midst of that, other challenges are coming up that they have to face. Complicated in this world, but it is such that the world doesn’t stop, it just keeps going and things will happen as they do. But good story here and a good message that you should all take from this. So let me introduce Debbie Mason and Mike Mason. They are with me tonight to talk essentially about the journey that started in November, 2020 or November, October. So Debbie, why don’t you bring us through a little bit about what is going on, how all this started and tell us about it?
Debbie: [00:02:05] Well, It was very, a very innocent happening. Mike and I were helping a local political candidate run for reelection. And we were working in her campaign and I simply called and asked a neighbor if we could put a sign in his yard. And he said, oh, sure. Put a sign in our yard, we love that person. But don’t hang up, Debbie. I want to talk to you about something else. And I said, what is it? He went on to say did you know that my mother recently passed from ovarian cancer? I said, oh, I’m sorry. No, I didn’t know that. And he said on her death bed, I made a promise to her and she made me promise every woman I talk to, I would tell her to get a CA 125 test. Now that’s just a blood test. I said, I’ve never heard of that test. And it was Richard Munos a nearby neighbor. And I said tell me about it. He said it’s just a blood test. I mean, you can get it any time and costs maybe $25, $50. But you can add it in with your blood work when you’re having a physical and I was due for one. And so I went in several months later and I asked the doctor to add a CA 125 test to that. And when I got the results back, it was slightly elevated. It concerned me. I’m a little scared, but the doctor said, don’t worry about it. That test can be high for a number of reasons. But if you’re really worried, we can get a scan. And since you’re, an older woman that would probably be wise. So we took the next step and I had a scan of my abdomen. And they found what they called a thickening in my uterine wall. And he said I’m not really worried about that. It’s out of my hands now. You need to go to your gynecologist and have him check it out. So I went to my gynecologist, had him check it out. And he said, Debbie, I don’t think that is a thickening I believe it’s a polyp. I said, do I have anything to worry about? And he said no. We see these all the time, it’s just a polyp, we’ll do a DNC where they scrape the inside of the uterus and get rid of it. But we’ll go ahead and take your fallopian tubes and ovaries because you’re past childbearing age and then you won’t have to worry with the CA 125 test anymore. I said that sounds good. So we scheduled it. It was scheduled very soon, right before Thanksgiving of 2020. Several days later I recovered nicely We were about to go out to dinner actually to celebrate my good health, when the phone rang and it was Dr. Morgelle. And he said, Debbie, I’m sorry to have to tell you. I have devastating news. The polyp was cancer.
Rico: [00:05:17] What did you think about at that moment?
Debbie: [00:05:21] I couldn’t breathe. It’s just, when I think about it. Nobody wants to hear that. And then he went on, it got worse. He said it’s carcinosarcoma. Well, I’d never heard of that. And he said, it’s the worst diagnosis any woman wants to hear. He told me the kind of cancer it was. And we talked shortly and then we hung up. And so needless to say, we called my sons and canceled dinner. They came over, we cried. But you know, like we always do Rico, in anything that we tackle, what’s the next step? Well we were going in, it was the week before Thanksgiving. We said, okay, now who do we know? What can we do? Our minds started turning. And Mike might want to come in here cause right.
Mike: [00:06:20] You always go with the facts. And so I immediately, after supporting Debbie and everything, got through that, I said, look. Before we get too far into this, let’s get the facts. because she was told you need to get a surgeon immediately. A gynecologist who’s also a surgeon and I recommend this person. It’ll be hard to get that guy because he’s on Thanksgiving holidays. And so we started calling people to how quickly can we get in to see him? How quickly can Debbie have the surgery? But in the meantime, you go to Google and you figure out everything you need to know about carcinosarcoma. And it’s terrible. It’s exactly what the doctor said.
Debbie: [00:07:02] Everything that you hear is gloom and doom, because this cancer is always found late stage.
Mike: [00:07:11] Late third or fourth. You don’t see symptoms until late.
Debbie: [00:07:15] Yeah.
Rico: [00:07:16] When we had that conversation some weeks ago, you and I. And I thought this would be great to share in the magazine and on the podcast I went and I looked. The same thing you did probably, Web MD and you look at all the stuff that’s out there. What type of cancer is it? And you’re right, it’s scary. And even if you’re not a religious person, I think you find that the world sometimes brings things to you, presents themselves to you in a way. Opportunities present themselves to you. You walked up to that guy’s door and you found salvation to a degree, because you found it early.
Debbie: [00:07:50] Yeah.
Rico: [00:07:51] So once you went through that, once you got tests, the shock I’m sure, and the emotion and the supporting. I think husbands to some degree, want to be problem solvers. We want to be able to be that supporter, but we want to solve the problem. So how did it go? Where did you take it from there then? Because it was before Thanksgiving. So how did that go?
Debbie: [00:08:11] First of all, we called our family doctor. Who had found it through a scan, the polyp. Because the doctor we had contacted, the surgeon who we weren’t able to get in to see until after Thanksgiving said to have a chest x-ray or a scan of the chest. I said to Dr. Singal and we had occasion to talk to him can you order that? And he said, yes we’ll get that right away. Went over and got that done. But I think we mentioned to Dr. Singal in him getting the results saying that, because this cancer would typically move to, the lungs is a popular place it likes to go. That scan did not show any evidence of metastasis as we read the results. And we asked Dr. Singal. So well, we just had the other scan, he said that should help too. And between those two things, for the first time, I felt a little bit better. Mike, is on the board of health with being the mayor of the largest city. So he’s friends with Audrey Arona who is the chairman of the board of health and she just so happens to be a gynecologist before she was on the board of health. So again, we’re grasping for information and we can’t find professionals fast enough. So we called her and ran that past her. And we told her the story. She said, what? You mean, how? You found this?
Mike: [00:09:50] She said, you weren’t having any symptoms?
Debbie: [00:09:52] This cancer is always found because a woman is bleeding and that’s usually stage three or stage four. Debbie, this neighbor of yours probably saved your life. Well we, that it is yet to be seen but she’s right. Because I was thinking let’s get my affairs in order Mike. I mean, I’m going to die. Well, we all know we’re going to die, but I wanted to think I would have it a little more time on this earth. But I thought I would have to get my affairs in order. She said, Debbie, this is survivable. And that was the second ray of hope that I got. When we finally got in to see the surgeon, he was more gloom and doom. Because he says that cancer is just a monster. It’s known for coming back. Let’s just get it out as quickly as we can. So we got it out a few days before Christmas, it took me almost a month to get it scheduled. People love to do surgeries at the end of the year for insurance purposes, I understand. So we said, whatever hospital, I don’t care where we have to go, first available. And they took out my entire uterus because he had to determine if it had passed through the wall. And that’s how we were able to stage the cancer. And then he called me, but of course he told me the good news in the hospital. I had a little setback, but was home recovering well. And I started bleeding and it just wouldn’t stop. So they rushed me to the hospital. And I have a heart issue as well, and I was taking a blood thinner. And that was complicating the situation. So they got the bleeding to stop and everything was fine. But I remember him coming into my room. He said, Debbie, stage one. You’re lucky. Stage one. And he held up his finger like that. And I said, oh my God, I cried and cried. But he said I’m gonna still present your case to the tumor board at the hospital. And they’ll tell us what they want you to do. So he did, he presented it and they suggested since the cancer had progressed through 60% of the wall of the uterus. They don’t like to see more than 50%. 50% they’ll only recommend radiation. Since it was a little more, he said for the best outcome for this woman, let’s do chemo and radiation. And I thought if that’s what we got to do, let’s do it. So I scheduled a chemo for the next week, went in, did a full round of chemo. And went a week later for my blood work. And they looked at me, I was awfully tired but I assumed that was from the chemo. They looked at me and said, my goodness when did this start? And I said, when did what start? What do you mean? They said, well you’re terribly jaundiced Debbie. And so the doctor came in and said, oh my goodness. Let’s put her in a wheelchair and take her downstairs to the hospital. We were over at Duluth North Side. And I had gone into a rare reaction to the chemo. 1% of the population experiences this, and I was in liver shutdown. And so the doctor pulled the chair into my room and I said, this doesn’t look good if you’re going to come in and sit down. Because you know, doctors just don’t usually do that. And he said, yes, it is. You can live with cancer, but you can’t live without a liver. And they even talked to liver specialists at Emory about the possibility of a transplant. But then the guy we contacted Dr. Lord who is wonderful, came into my room and said, who said anything to you about liver failure? You’re not in liver failure. The liver is a wonderful organ that bounces back. What I suspect will happen, I don’t know for sure, but what I suspect will happen, your liver values will rise. It’ll take a day or two for us to see. So the next day they came up slightly and the day after that, they came up even more. And so they let me go home because there’s nothing that you can do to improve your liver. It just does, it just reacts on its own. It took about a month for my liver values to get back to normal. So I survived that, I dodged that bullet
Rico: [00:14:55] They ended up stopping the chemo?
Debbie: [00:14:58] Yes. They said, no more chemo for you. It’s like Jerry Seinfeld with the soup Nazi. No more chemo for you. So the only thing I can battle this cancer with is radiation. Once I recovered enough, I started on my journey with radiation. And I had three rounds of high dose radiation. Which I can’t say I really suffered any side effects from that. A little bit of tiredness. But I was lucky. I thought I was due, I was overdue for some luck, so.
Rico: [00:15:36] That’s right. Most people have, depending on where the radiation is done, most people end up with side effects and stuff. But you obviously were able to bounce back and going through that radiation, the three rounds of radiation. When was the last round that you had?
Debbie: [00:15:52] It was probably the end of February.
Mike: [00:15:55] I was going to say, sometime in March, but same time frame.
Debbie: [00:15:59] It may have been the first week of march.
Rico: [00:16:01] Right. So Debbie, you’ve gone through a lot. Back and forth, complications, liver. I probably not knowing how it would exactly feel, I certainly know how bad luck feels sometimes I feel you know, darn, I don’t win the lottery and I’m doing this what’s going on? You know, and you’re fortunate you have a lot of people you know. So for those people that obviously, I think people know Mike Mason’s the mayor. I think most people know you’re the first lady that you’ve been you’re a founder and on the board of the Peachtree Corners Festival. You were part of the United Peachtree Corners Civic Association, you’re still on the board now. I’ve known you guys going back. I don’t know, 20 odd years, maybe? I don’t know, It’s been a long time.
Debbie: [00:16:45] It’s been 20, 25 years.
Mike: [00:16:46] When you first moved here.
Rico: [00:16:48] That’s right I moved here in 95, met Tom Rice actually, knocking on my door, the first campaign. And I was like, do I know you? And he was like, I’m Tom Rice, I’m running for office. A former assemblyman for those that don’t know. But yeah, it’s been a long time now. And I don’t know your personal lives per se. But you know, I’ve seen your kids grow up a little bit and stuff. But you’ve had a whole city, lots of friends I think. You must have a tremendous amount of support from people that you knew.
Debbie: [00:17:15] I’ve clearly felt the love. My youngest son who doesn’t live here, came all the way down from Connecticut and he came in right before Christmas and he stayed through surgery. And he didn’t stay through the radiation, but he stayed there through most of the tough parts. And just countless people with food, with sending gift cards. And the stack of cards I got and all the people saying I’m praying for you. And I’ve been told that I have a whole city of people praying for me. And I felt that prayer, I actually can feel it. So it humbles you because usually I’m on the other end of the giving in all my years of doing all that I do. I’m usually the one doing for people.
Rico: [00:18:07] You’ve been a fundraiser, you’ve been out there for a lot of different charities working on foundations. You’ve worked on the Norcross High School Foundation of Excellence. Actually, you guys were I think entered into the hall of fame. You’ve been out there doing things. And so when something like this happens and you’re on the other end of that receiving. And obviously the big C word that people worry about, thank God, you seem to be heading in the right direction. Do priorities change? What has been probably the biggest change in your life?
Debbie: [00:18:37] Well, you look at life differently, I’ll say that. You don’t think long-term, you think short term. Mike and I, always say we give ourselves away. It’s something that we need to do for the community. But we might forego something that we wanted to do. I don’t do that anymore. And I, told my partner in crime for the festival just the other day. I still love the festival it’s just my baby. I birthed it. But I just don’t feel the burn to raise the money like I used to, I used to treat it like it was buried treasure. There’s a dollar out there, I gotta find it. And I just don’t feel that anymore. And I’ve dropped off of, I used to be on Gwinnett, Clean and Beautiful board. And I’m still active in my neighborhood. But I’ve just slowed down. I take more time for me. I still make it a point that I attend every city council meeting and work session. I think probably since the city’s been in existence, I missed one meeting when I had heart surgery and I missed one meeting…
Mike: [00:19:52] Pesky cancer, right?
Debbie: [00:19:54] Yes.
Rico: [00:19:56] Right. I know you have a beautiful garden and we had a photographer go out and take pictures and I can tell you it was hard to pick out the right picture for that spread in the magazine. So there was a lot of great pictures in there. Do you find yourself spending more time there? What do you find yourself doing?
Debbie: [00:20:13] Our garden has never looked more beautiful because we got started early this year.
Mike: [00:20:18] She did a great job.
Debbie: [00:20:19] But because of COVID-19. COVID has been good to us because we’ve sidestepped the disease and it’s given us more time at home to plant. Because when I’m in that backyard, I’m in the zone. My hands are in the dirt and everything. Mike says, I paint with flowers.
Mike: [00:20:38] She does.
Debbie: [00:20:40] Yes, you’re right. I had changed my priorities there. We just love our yard. We enjoyed a staycation before it was popular to staycation. Because we’re not big travelers. We’re homebodies and we just love our home and we love our backyard.
Rico: [00:20:57] Mike, as a husband, as mayor of the city as a friend. Husbands are sometimes deep friends with their wives, right? You hope that’s the case. How did that compare? How did you feel? Tell me a little bit about how that felt man to man here.
Mike: [00:21:11] You probably know this about me and a lot of people do. I’m very objectives oriented and I just make a list and work the list. I was an accountant, a chief financial officer for years and years. I try to get the irrefutable facts. And so that’s what I started doing. Jokingly I like to say, I wish the had the luxury of having feelings. But it’s helpful. If you try to avoid having feelings, you can’t. It’s your wife. Been married 48 years. It’s your best friend. But you also play the role. So one role is I’m the guy who’s got to get all the facts and make sure that when we talked to doctors, I’m there. And COVID got in the way and Debbie would zoom me in or FaceTime me in.
Debbie: [00:21:58] Yeah, he was not allowed in the room. When I saw these doctors and like I said, it’s like drinking out of a fire hose and the information is coming. And when I would leave the room. I couldn’t remember anything they told me. It was just overwhelming.
Mike: [00:22:14] And I would be able to communicate. Because I had already read everything that’s possible to read. And I’d already figured out stage one is this, and stage two, is that. But what about this? And so I was ready. And so we went through that and I would help her. I would provide structure to her. Okay, no. Here’s the parts. Here’s what we’re going to do. I’m talking to the doctor and this is it. I would call doctors and schedule things for her so that she didn’t have to deal with a lot of that stuff because you don’t have a lot of bandwidth left. You know, that was the thing. It was emotionally draining to deal with it. So she was dealing with something that would drain away. And if you’re dealing with the bureaucracy of a doctor’s office or a hospital, that can kind of drain you too. So I would handle all that. And then when we would get setback news, or it would be like, oh no, what does that mean? My job is always to be the team cheerleader. No, that is not what it’s going to happen. You know, you have to focus on this, you have to wait and get this fact. All we’ve heard is this, that does not mean that. And you have to be very clear on expectations and relentlessly shamelessly cheerlead.
Rico: [00:23:32] Even when I’m sure that Debbie would be like, I don’t need the cheerleading. This is the way I’m feeling right now. I’m just going to have to go with it. Because I can imagine. I have a wife that, I’m at the doctor’s with her sometimes like that, because it’s not only listening to the stuff. She’s very good about remembering everything. She remembers everything. But you want to be there to handle perspective also, right? It doesn’t mean this because you’re only listening from a certain point of view because that’s where you are. You’re afraid of what’s going on and it’s a tunnel vision almost. And you need that extra person there with you that you trust to be able to bring you back a little bit.
Mike: [00:24:08] Yeah. To literally ask questions about now, wait a minute. Let’s be clear. What about this? What about that? Because when you’re in the moment with a doctor they give you time. But remember, they’re trying to get to the next patient as well. So you want to get all the facts clarified before.
Debbie: [00:24:25] And when they’re a cancer doctor, guess what? The next patient has cancer too. They want to have their time and they should have their time.
Rico: [00:24:33] And COVID obviously ranked in there because of the way the hospitals were working then. At least the beginning of the year. Did that even bother you? Was that a concern?
Debbie: [00:24:43] I was scared to death. Let’s see, COVID started around February of 2020, I mean 19. And then I got the diagnosis of my cancer in October. And you had to mask up. No doctor’s office would let anybody else in the room. And the last place you ever wanted to be was in a hospital. And I was in the hospital for two surgeries. And then for two times for my liver failure and my bleeding episode. How we managed to, and still, I thank God that we had sidestepped getting COVID-19 so far. And I’m worried about this Delta variant. Oh my goodness.
Rico: [00:25:29] Right. So you guys masking up still now when you go out? If it’s too crowded?
Mike: [00:25:33] We started again.
Debbie: [00:25:34] It depends. When I go to the grocery store, if it seems especially crowded, we mask up. And in restaurants or our favorite restaurant that we go to. But for most places, this morning I was at the nail salon, we were the only two people in there, we didn’t. We just use our judgment.
Rico: [00:25:53] Yeah, no, I get it. And you’re right. I just thought of masking up a couple of days ago because of the variant and stuff. And I also found out one of my tennis partner, but he was on the altar team I’m on, has COVID. Just got it. Even though he’s fully vaccinated. So there you go. And there are more people like that it seems. I’ve been speaking to a few doctors and they’re seeing more of that. That even though you’re fully vaccinated, there’s still people catching it. So you want to be careful out there and you’ve adjusted your lifestyle a bit. You’ve set your priorities. I’m sure moving forward as things progress. God willing, everything stays better. I know you’re still concerned. You have another test coming up in a week or so.
Debbie: [00:26:31] Yeah. I mean when we got the word that the scan, the first scan that I received, there was no sign of metastasis. So it was clear. Naturally I cried in the office And they told us how it works. You won’t have another scan unless you have symptoms. So anyway, when we got the number of the CA 125 test and that number had elevated, I said, oh no, it’s probably just like Dr. Solmeri said it’s back. And then Mike in his cheerleading fashion said, no Debbie. Remember, let’s look at the facts. He reels me back in when I need it and thank God I’ve got him. I don’t know how I got so lucky. We’re gonna go next Wednesday to have that CA 125 test redone and see if it’s jumped again. So we’ll know then if it has jumped again, there will probably be something going on. But if it has stabilized because that number can go up or down, it’s not a finite number. Like most blood tests. It can bounce around. It measures inflammation. And so inflammation can be from whatever.
Rico: [00:27:48] Yeah. A variety of reasons. I’m sure.
Debbie: [00:27:50] Yeah.
Rico: [00:27:50] I think we’re at a good point here. I appreciate you sharing your time with us, with everyone, to talk about this. Obviously CA 125 is the test that every woman should take. And it’s like you said, it’s inexpensive. It can be part of your physical, your lab work.
Mike: [00:28:07] The CA obviously stands for cancer, but it measures inflammation as Debbie said. So there are a lot of false positives. Young women, particularly. If a woman starts her period, it’s going to skyrocket. But it can register all kinds of things. That’s why doctors say they don’t do it routinely with women over a certain age. But we have gone through this with other doctors.
Debbie: [00:28:28] I can remember the oncologist, the surgeon telling me, he said, I don’t want you going out and telling every woman you meet. Because he knew the story. To get a CA 125 test. It’s just gonna cost them money and it’s going to scare them to death. I said well, yeah, I was scared to death too. But what if they’re like me Dr. Solneri? And he said yes, in your case, it may have saved your life. And that’s the end of the story. Give me false positives. I’ll take them all day long. If I peel that onion and it comes back, no cancer.
Rico: [00:29:08] I think at one point mammography was like that. They were trying to say, let’s cut it out because you don’t need it at a certain point. Every life is important. Yes. You want to be able to have that option.
Mike: [00:29:19] Exactly.
Rico: [00:29:20] If you want that option, you should be able to have it.
Debbie: [00:29:22] I would like to think that every woman, by the time she maybe is age 40 would be a good time to start. I’m quite sure there’s women somewhere that have gotten this cancer younger than that. But I think to be reasonable at 40 would be a good age. But most certainly, I was a 70 year old woman. I still had my uterus, a lot of women don’t. I went for genetic testing to see if I had a marker somewhere that a BRACA gene was why I got my cancer and they were all negative. And the genetic lady told me, the reason you got cancer debbie was just because you had a uterus.
Mike: [00:30:08] She didn’t inherit it from anybody.
Rico: [00:30:10] Wow. Okay. I appreciate your time with us. I know we had talked before about how Debbie is from Indiana. Mike’s from Georgia, native. Just to give some people some background. Although when did you leave Indiana Debbie? Did you come straight to Georgia or did you come through by way of somewhere else?
Mike: [00:30:27] How long do you have?
Debbie: [00:30:30] That story is so long, Rico, I don’t know if you really want to know the answer.
Rico: [00:30:37] That’s for another podcast then.
Debbie: [00:30:39] Yes, another podcast
Rico: [00:30:42] It’s good to have you on and I appreciate you sharing your story. It’s a touching story. And Mike and Debbie.
Debbie: [00:30:47] I thank you for letting us have the time with you to share the story. Because if this saves one person’s life, it will be worth it.
Rico: [00:30:59] For sure.
Mike: [00:31:00] And I’ll take this opportunity. Constantly, relentlessly, get vaccinated. Same thing. Get a CA 125. I do it all the time with people. And I mean it. Some people get mad at me. I’m sorry. Not really. But be vaccinated. And women over a certain age, really talk to your doctor about it. But CA 125. Might save your life.
Rico: [00:31:23] Thank you guys. I appreciate that. Thank you. And thanks everyone for listening. Pick up the magazine, you’ll find it at most businesses and catch the show later.
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Krstovic graduated from Georgia State with a major in English. He joked that many of his contemporaries in the field have similar backgrounds.
“There’s an ongoing joke in the pest community where it’s like … what do you go to college [for] to be a pest [control] owner? Well, you major in liberal arts, English or writers’ composition,” he said.
“A lot of the other owners I met had the same degrees. A big part of it is that creativity aspect, and in pest control, you’re allowed to think outside the box, and you’re allowed to adjust and adapt to what you’re seeing and use different methods.”
That desire to do things differently led him to find a way to help keep people safe from West Nile, Zika virus and Eastern equine encephalitis while they enjoyed time outdoors.
With a lot of research and a little help from relatives with backgrounds in chemistry and engineering, he came up with a formulation based on using essential oils.
The dangers of mosquitos
“After you meet your first client that tells you about their experience just walking to a mailbox and they get West Nile, it changes your perspective 100%,” Krstovic said, “because you’re not just out there killing bugs, you’re out there protecting people and their families.”
Mosquitos are often called the most dangerous animal on earth, with the diseases they spread killing over a million people annually according to statistics from the World Health Organization and Centers for Disease Control.
While the more serious mosquito diseases don’t pose the greatest risk to most communities, there are common ailments that can show up in people and pets, including bites that get infected and heartworm in dogs.
Reaching out to the community
Though people were a little skeptical about Krstovic’s natural pest control methods at first, Erin Rhatigan decided to give it a try.
“Geoff cold-called our house in 2021 and revealed that he actually grew up in the house next door,” she said. “He really wanted to return to his roots and offer his services.”
Rhatigan has three young children, and with her home being situated on the Chattahoochee River, the outdoor areas are beautiful, but also plagued by a lot of mosquitos.
“We’re very focused on spending time outside, and our kids are very, very active, so they’re outside a lot,” she said.
But Rhatigan and her kids are also very sensitive to mosquito bites, and the spraying services she tried year after year weren’t satisfactory.
“I had gone through every franchise. I had used the large companies every season. I was switching because it seemed like it would be effective at the beginning, and then it would lose effectiveness,” she said.
She was also concerned about the toxicity of the chemicals being used.
“I felt like using toxic chemicals on our property was not only bad for our family, but because we are on the river, we’re kind of a steward to the environment as well, … so when he mentioned that the product that he uses to control the mosquitoes was eco-friendly, I was happy to try it,” she shared.
Local solution gets a local investor
The treatment was so effective that Rhatigan isn’t just a customer, she and her husband decided to invest in the business.
“It was better than anything I had used for the previous 10 years,” she said. “The amazing thing is that when he sprays the property, you have this effervescence of the essential oils in the air.”
She recommended Geo Mosquito to everyone who’d listen to her, and eventually Krstovic took over maintaining the facilities at Rhatigan’s community pool.
“[What he was doing] kind of piqued my husband’s and my interest because we were looking for a small business to invest in locally,” she said. “I’m now home with the kids, but I have a long career in sales, and my husband is in sales as well.”
Within a year, the couple became active investors.
“We love the origin story of this relationship because it’s reflective of how friendly and supportive the local business community is in Peachtree Corners,” she said.
Caring about the work
Krstovic attributes his success to caring about the work, attention to detail and understanding client needs. He doesn’t just spray the yard and leave; he has a system of mapping out problem areas and educating clients about prevention.
“We’re looking at anything that could hold a water source and eliminating that, asking our clients what time of the day they’re getting eaten up, what part of their body and what part of their yard,” he said.
“That helps us figure out the species of mosquito that’s attacking them, so we know where to target, because different species have different nesting sites.”
Growing the business
Geo Mosquito has begun working with Vox-pop-uli to upgrade their logo, website and promotional materials.
“Geoff is a typical entrepreneur — protective of what he’s doing,” Rhatigan said. “So going through the steps of changing the logo, coming up with a new tagline, starting to do some marketing, is both exciting and a little scary.”
But the team at Vox-pop-uli has been a tremendous resource — helping them go at their own pace.
“This first year of investment was about seeing what the market interest is and expanding brand awareness,” said Rhatigan. “Vox-pop-uli offers so many services, it’s daunting for an emerging company to manage so many different contractors: creative, graphic design, printing, mailing. But they have a great, responsive organization that has been very helpful.”
Next steps
With a proprietary formulation for the mosquito abatement, Geo Mosquito wants to bottle the solution and sell it nationally.
Additionally, in 2025, the company plans to expand into ecofriendly pest control services for inside the home. They are also interested in working with local municipalities, churches and schools to expand their mosquito control services.
The Local Thread: This business profile series is proudly supported by Vox-pop-uli, championing local stories and the communities we serve.
This article is also available in the print and digital edition of the Jan/Feb issue of Southwest Gwinnett magazine.
Photos courtesy of Geo Mosquito.
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January 4, 2025According to physicians, educators and child psychologists, there are myriad reasons parents encourage their young children to play soccer:
- Physical fitness: Soccer is a fast-paced sport that can help improve cardiovascular health, muscular strength, flexibility and endurance.
- Motor skills: Soccer involves running, kicking, dribbling and passing, which can help develop balance, agility and coordination.
- Socialization: Soccer can help children make friends from different backgrounds and cultures.
- Teamwork: Soccer is a team sport that teaches children the value of cooperation and working together towards a common goal.
- Life skills: Soccer can help children develop discipline, perseverance and resilience.
- Emotional intelligence: Soccer can help children develop empathy and emotional intelligence.
- Stress reduction: Playing soccer can help reduce stress and anxiety by releasing endorphins that elevate mood.
- Confidence: Consistent practice and dedication can help children build confidence and overcome obstacles.
- Gender equality: Participating in sports like soccer can help break down gender stereotypes.
- Enjoyment: Soccer can help encourage children to enjoy their childhood and stay in school.
It’s for those objectives and more that members of the Peachtree Corners Football Club (PCFC) are working so hard to sustain and grow their program.
A growing community
Nearly three years ago, three local parents had the idea to build an organization for their children to reap the benefits of recreational soccer.
“We found out that we were linked to the athletic club called Peachtree Booster Club,” said Gavin Meech, a club committee member, parent coach and member of the small group that revitalized the soccer program. “It’s sort of an overarching group that also looks after the roller hockey at Pinckneyville Park in Norcross.”
They realized that back in 1975, a youth soccer program called the Jones Bridge Soccer Club was formed at Jones Bridge Park. Now renamed the Peachtree Corners Football Club, the parents decided to put the time and energy into revitalizing — and growing — the decades-old program.
In February 2022, the three coaches had 170 kids. The program now has nearly 300 kids across 30 teams. The club emphasizes community involvement, with over 5,000 volunteer hours annually from parents and coaches. Challenges include managing growth and ensuring sustainability, though the club aims to expand its field space and engage more local businesses for partnerships.
The organization will soon celebrate 50 years of providing youth recreational level soccer to the local community in the southwest corner of Gwinnett County. And registration for the upcoming season is nearly full, highlighting the need for continued community support and involvement.
Bringing new energy to an old club
Initially, the group faced challenges in forming the soccer club, including linking with the Peachtree Booster Club and learning administrative tasks.
“That first season was a steep learning curve, and we ended up, I think, with about 170 kids,” said Meech. “So we were driving around Peachtree Corners, sticking the little signs anywhere that we were legally allowed. A few of us were grabbing anybody that would slightly suggest they would help by being a parent coach and things like that.”
Fast forward to this past season where there were just under 300 kids and 30 teams.
“We are now oversubscribed,” he added. “Our return rate is in excess of 80% of the kids and their families. So, it’s really become something that once they join, they return, and through word of mouth, more want to join.”
The club is community-centric, with kids from local schools like Simpson, Berkeley Lake and Cornerstone taking part. Volunteers naturally step forward and get involved, with no formal process.
“[Rapid growth] is a great problem to have. So we’re working with [Gwinnett County Parks and Recreation] at the moment to try and see if we can gain more field space,” Meech said. “We started to utilize the big field near the Aquatic Center. It’s similar in size to Jones Bridge field, but it’s got a slightly different classification at the moment.”
Right now, several clubs are using that space, so a huge obstacle is finding some place to play that’s local so that families won’t have to traipse all over the metro area.
“We don’t want to lose our identity by expanding too big, because that’s hard to manage,” he added.
Community engagement and future plans
Committee member Mathew Shamloo credits Meech with pulling him into the mix.
“I’d say that Gavin has a very unassuming gravitational pull,” he said. “There’s no real process to it. I think it’s just naturally the people who want to be involved step forward and, whether or not they are asked, they’re just kind of pulled in inch by inch.”
Shamloo is also a coach, but had no prior experience.
“I had no real ties to soccer before this,” he said. “My daughter wanted to play. My background is in basketball.”
So he utilized some of the fundamentals that apply to any team sport and researched best coaching practices.
“I want her to play soccer because it’s easily accessible, it’s local, it’s right around the corner from us,” he said. “It was like, ‘Hey, there’s soccer. We can start there.’”
Like most parents, Meech and Shamloo don’t have dreams that their kids will turn into David Beckham or Brandi Chastain. But if the kids have those aspirations, PCFC has ties to bigger opportunities.
“I think what we’ve managed to achieve is we have raised the bar on rec sports, and we are able to compete, but we’re fundamentally a rec club,” said Meech. “I think some of the challenges of the past [are] where you get to a point where you say, ‘Well, should we become an academy? Should we offer the next level of competition to the kids?’ But sort of the mentality we’ve had, and kind of our foundation, is no, that Peachtree Corners is a local rec club.”
In order to keep doing what they do in an amateur Ted Lasso fashion and stay around for another 50 years, the club focuses on community and engagement with local businesses for partnerships rather than sponsorships.
“Our soccer club and families are more than just a group of people that meet for our kids to play a sport,” said Meech. “Traditionally, you engage with local business for sponsorship, but we’re very lucky in the sense that, as a nonprofit supported by parks and rec with facilities, we don’t need a huge amount of sponsorship.”
Expanding the community
Soccer is easily accessible globally because all you need is a ball and a goal and some grass or something similar, so the costs are relatively low, he added.
“We’ve been able to engage with local restaurants, other sporting facilities and work in more of a partnership with them to create this wider community beyond Jones Bridge soccer playing fields,” he said.
Both men pointed out that they go to Town Center or other sporting events with their families and inevitably bump into Peachtree Corners FC players and family members everywhere.
“Local businesses reach out to us and try and find out how they can contribute,” said Meech.
Although the club is at capacity, it still invites families and businesses to visit and see the activities firsthand. The committee members want to build awareness and community involvement, as the club aims to continue growing and providing a positive experience for all involved while maintaining its community-centric focus.
For more information about the Peachtree Corners Football Club, visit pcfcsoccer.com.
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Many of us are consumed by the day-to-day of life’s hustle and bustle, doing our best to navigate our relationships, provide for our families and live comfortably. A select few meet with great success on all fronts.
Fewer still somehow manage to lead extraordinarily accomplished existences with gumption, energy and talent left to spare, positively impacting circles far larger than their own family unit.
One such exceptional person, and longtime Peachtree Corners resident, is Jim Gaffey. Allow me to introduce you to the most extraordinary neighbor you never knew you had. I had the honor of speaking to him while he was spending time at his second home in the North Carolina mountains.
With a charming wife, thriving children and grandkids entering the fold, the former BellSouth executive is winning in the game of life. But it’s his heart for seeing others win that is something to behold.
He worked up from an entry-level installer pulling cables to a successful career in telecommunications, and from a first-generation Irish American teaching youngsters to read in Spanish Harlem to having a hand in peacemaking efforts in Northern Ireland.
With modesty, Gaffey would tell you that his work in Northern Ireland wasn’t remarkable because there were a plethora of well-funded protests taking place when he was a young man in the 1960s and 70s. I beg to differ.
Why The Troubles were troubling
After gaining its independence in 1922, Ireland seceded from the United Kingdom to become the independent Irish Free State except for the six northeastern counties that comprise Northern Ireland, creating the partition of Ireland.
The Nationalists, largely Catholics, wanted Northern Ireland to become part of the republic of Ireland. The overwhelmingly Protestant Unionists wished to remain part of the United Kingdom. The violent sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland known as The Troubles erupted in 1968 after having been stoked by hundreds of years of tumultuous history.
Gaffey described the rather draconian, anti-Catholic situation, which he prefers to view through the lens of “the haves versus the have-nots” instead of joining the media in playing-up the battle of the religions. In truth, voting laws seemed fair; but in practice, they were very unfavorable to Catholics.
Local voting was subject to property qualifications which made matters even worse. Business owners — disproportionately Protestant — who owned multiple properties got multiple votes.
“You had some people with no vote at all and some people with overloaded gerrymandering of the districts and sitting in parliament,” Gaffey said. This would ensure a Protestant majority in as many constituencies as possible.
Hence, in Northern Ireland, the religious makeup of your community determined the quality of your housing, public services and the jobs available to you. Peaceful protests were not kindly received.
Understandably, those who had enjoyed centuries of unfair advantages wanted to keep things just as they were.
Brooklyn boy
The son of Irish immigrants, Gaffey was moved by the civil unrest going on across the pond. He authored an essay about the crisis while studying at City University of New York with a focus on the Special Powers Act passed by the Parliament of Northern Ireland in 1922. The act was meant to restore order but was ruthlessly used to suppress the Nationalists’ opposition to politics that significantly favored the Unionists.
“The Special Powers Act allowed the authorities in Northern Ireland to arrest without charge and hold indefinitely up to six years without a trial or any kind of a court hearing. People were placed in concentration camp facilities,” Gaffey explained.
The British Army began a policy of internment without trial in Northern Ireland in 1971 during Operation Demetrius which would last until 1975.
Skin in the game
In 1969, when Gaffey’s university paper was distributed to the head of the Transport Workers Union in New York City and to the National Council of Churches, it was decided he should be sent to Northern Ireland to learn what was going on and report back to the United States. The street smarts he’d acquired growing up in Brooklyn were about to be put to the test.
Gaffey first landed in Ireland on August 15, 1969 — the day after the British army had arrived. Armed only with legal writing pads, he was instructed to walk the streets, meet and live with the locals, observe, write weekly reports detailing his findings and send them through the postal system, as was customary then.
“When something big was happening, like the British army going into a certain area, we used telegrams,” he said.
“The Unionists began to attack and burn whole villages, trying to force out the Nationalists and stop the civil rights movement. The British government decided that too many people were being killed and driven out of their homes. Whole rows of homes were burnt down. All those families had to flee,” Gaffey said.
The U.S. didn’t want to interfere but craved a better understanding of what was going on with their close allies in the United Kingdom.
“People here, even people in Irish organizations, couldn’t understand why two Christian communities were attacking one another,” Gaffey explained.
Between 1968 and 1972, Gaffey traveled to Northern Ireland 12 times, living in both Unionist and Nationalist communities, learning from them. He shared what was unfolding with the U.S. by reporting to congressional officials and testifying to the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
An uncomfortable situation
Asked if he was fearful, Gaffey replied, “I was very cautious. I was stopped and frisked in the streets by British soldiers and held for a period of time until my paperwork could be approved by some officer at least 12 times,” he revealed.
Anyone moving from one tiny community to the other in that area — no larger than Connecticut — or traveling with recognizable people as he was, was likely to be stopped, especially if they were obviously not dock workers or coal miners, the type of individuals one would expect to see there.
Observers knew to always carry their passports and visas, and say they were just visiting friends and relatives if questioned. “We were sent in with the cards of American diplomatic officials to call in case it got serious,” Gaffey said.
Gaffey recounts harrowing tales like that of the late John Hume being taken to meet the Irish Republican Army (IRA) in the trunk of a car to start the peace process because he wasn’t allowed to know where he was going.
Hidden under a blanket is how Gaffey was once driven speedily across the border into the Republic of Ireland when violence broke out in Derry. Besides developing an instinct for knowing when it was time to leave, when he wasn’t evading hostilities, he found himself in discussions with very aggressive, angry people resisting the push for change.
“Communities were devastated, people were beaten. It was a horrible situation,” Gaffey stated.
Forward, march!
“I was in three civil rights marches in Dungannon, Belfast and Londonderry: two in 1970 and one in 1971. I was pelted with rocks and stones by folks who did not like these marches in Northern Ireland,” Gaffey shared.
Just the thought of marching in such circumstances with 12 to 14,000 people organized by the Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association (NICRA) would strike terror in the hearts of most people. But men like Gaffey are a different breed.
“I was too busy ducking horse and cow manure to be terrified. When you were marching through these farmlands into cities where an election might be coming up, they got pretty feisty,” he said.
According to Gaffey, Nationalist chants were met with cries of “No surrender!” by Unionists who had a monopoly on everything.
— “We shall overcome!”
— “No surrender!”
— “We want jobs!”
— “No surrender!”
When the guns came out and things got extremely violent, the observers were pulled out of Northern Ireland.
After Ireland
What Gaffey had witnessed in Northern Ireland motivated him to help even more. He became the National Student Organizer of the National Association for Irish Justice (NAIJ) and traveled across the United States speaking at numerous universities including Yale, Harvard and Berkeley.
His goal? To educate students about what was going on in Northern Ireland and encourage them to become involved by protesting the blatant discrimination against the Catholics.
“We were the financial supporter in the United States for the NICRA who modeled themselves after the Civil Rights Movement in America,” Gaffey said. Able to garner support from the universities he visited, NAIJ chapters sprang up. Gaffey later served as the National Coordinator of the NAIJ.
As the Coordinator, Gaffey formally represented the NICRA in the United States at speaking engagements, public presentations and protests.
Over the years, Gaffey has met with four sitting U.S. Presidents about Northern Ireland: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. and Laura Bush and Barack and Michelle Obama. He served on a committee of 20 charged with organizing the Obamas’ first trip to Ireland.
Luck of the Irish
John Lennon, who had participated in a march in London, backed the civil rights movement and supported the NICRA. Lennon attended NICRA meetings and spoke at rallies in the United States. Gaffey had dinners with both he and Yoko Ono.
“He carried around our first son,” Gaffey beamed. “He was one of the most empathetic people I’ve ever met. Anything that was happening around him affected him emotionally, almost physically. When he was associated with us, he was taking in every bit of information,” he added.
Lennon and Ono wrote “The Luck of the Irish” in 1971, donating all proceeds from the song to Irish civil rights organizations in Ireland and New York. Other supporters of the cause were Arlo Guthrie and the group Peter, Paul and Mary, who entertained at rallies and fundraisers free of charge, as did Lennon.
The lyrics of U2’s signature song, “Sunday Bloody Sunday” evoke the horrors of one of the darkest days of the Troubles in Northern Ireland when British troops shot and killed 13 unarmed Roman Catholic civil rights supporters, injuring 14 others (one later died), during a protest march in Derry on Sunday, January 30, 1972.
The Good Friday Agreement
On April 10, 1998, Irish Nationalist politicians John Hume and David Trimble, the Northern Irish leader, steered the Protestant majority and their Catholic rivals into a peace deal known as The Good Friday Agreement.
“Unfortunately, Trimble doesn’t get a lot of play because his community hated him for doing it,” Gaffey said.
The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded jointly to Hume and Trimble that year “for their efforts to find a peaceful solution to the conflict in Northern Ireland.”
When it was all said and done, 3,720 people in a population of about 1.5 million were killed in Northern Ireland over a 30-year period during the Troubles.
With 21 miles of “peace walls,” separating Irish republican from British loyalist neighborhoods, increasing in number and size since the signing of the Good Friday Agreement, it’s clear there is ongoing turmoil.
Martin Luther King III
In 2015, Gaffey was asked by those in Northern Ireland trying to settle things down to bring his friend Martin Luther King III with him to meet face-to-face with people on both sides. Gaffey followed through with King by his side.
“I think eventually, possibly within our lifetimes, we’ll witness the unification of Northern Ireland and Ireland into one country,” Gaffey stated. Despite the continued unrest, Gaffey maintains a vision of hope. Call it pollyannaish if you must, but I think I’ll join him in his prediction of a better tomorrow.
Avocation life
Gaffey discusses avocations like they’re as essential as breathing. I suspect he assumes we all partake in multiple activities in addition to our regular occupations.
In 2002, he founded The Gaffey Group, an international trading company. He’s brought 47 companies out of Northern Ireland to the United States on trade missions. Today, he assists the successful ones by procuring investors.
“I’ve gone on trade missions to Northern Ireland with Governor Sonny Perdue and Lieutenant Governor Casey Cagle. I also took Governor Bob Riley of Alabama and a team on a trade mission there,” Gaffey said.
Gaffey serves on the Peace Harmony Joy Alliance which mirrors his own belief in leading a purposeful life.
As an advisor to The Carter Center on conflict resolution, Gaffey has investigated third world and local issues.
In case you were unaware that it might need saving, Gaffey serves on the ad hoc committee to save the Good Friday Agreement. Deeming it necessary for future success, he calls it a pressure group.
He explained, “It’s always in peril. Although everybody signed a peace agreement, they’ve found less than half of the weapons that were being used. There are still incidents. They’re still looking for people who were never found.”
Leaving a legacy
Gaffey plans to donate an archive of over 300 documents to The Linen Hall, the oldest library in Belfast. His records of fundraising and support include financials, what they did, who they were raising money from, who they supported as well as communications addressed by leaders of the NICRA.
“I can’t believe the news today,” Bono first crooned in the 1980s about the heightened conflict in early 1970s Northern Ireland. Regrettably, we can look at wars going on across the globe today and say the same.
It seems as long as humankind exists, so too will conflict. The only comfort is knowing there will also always be those upholding justice and equality. If you’re lucky enough to meet one such person committed to peace, seize the occasion to hear stories of hope that can emerge from even the deepest trenches of despair.
There you have it, Peachtree Corners! I hope you’ve enjoyed meeting our very notable neighbor Jim Gaffey as much as I have.
This article originally ran in the October/November issue of Peachtree Corners Magazine. You can read the digital edition here.
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