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John Eaves for Congress

In this episode of Peachtree Corners Life, Rico Figliolini has a chat with Congressional Candidate John Eaves to talk about his campaign. Listen in as they discuss John’s views on Immigration, Health-care, Education, and dealing with COVID-19.

Resources:
https://eavesforcongress.com

“I think that the district that I want to represent is a very special district. District 7…is one of the most diverse districts, jurisdictions in the entire country. I think that we have a potential of being a model of how we do it. And I think that diversity is wonderful, but I’m also thinking it’s important for us to have what I consider, what I call it, inclusion. So how can everybody be at the table in terms of really supporting and benefiting from all the services that are present within district seven.”

John Eaves

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[00:00:30] – Intro
[00:01:56] – About John
[00:03:39] – Campaigning during COVID-19
[00:07:36] – Online Campaigning
[00:08:02] – How to react to COVID-19
[00:11:36] – Economic Changes
[00:16:16] – Issues Coming to the Forefront
[00:19:17] – Education and Jobs
[00:21:16] – Immigration
[00:25:21] – Medicare for All
[00:30:18] – Election Details
[00:32:58] – Closing

Podcast Transcription

Rico: [00:00:30] Hi, this is Rico Figliolini, host of Peachtree Corners Life. This is the Peachtree Corners Life show in the city of Peachtree Corners. I’m glad you can join us or if you’re viewing this on demand, that’s great too, and if you’re listening to this as a podcast on iHeartRadio, Spotify, or anything else, just leave us a review like that because we could go a little further up in those searches when you’re searching out for us. I have a special guest today. Before we get to him, I just want to say thank you to Hargray Fiber for being a sponsor of our family of podcasts. They’re a fiber company that works with a lot of businesses, small businesses and homes, but they are really involved in the small business community and midsize companies here in the city of Peachtree Corners and throughout the Southeast, actually providing fiber solutions to companies. And especially in this time, we’re COVID-19 and everything with dealing with people working from home and dealing with that, they’re doing a great outreach in our community to help everyone so you can find more information on them at HargrayFiber.com. Now let’s get to our guest, special guest tonight running for Congress. And if had one candidate before, he’s my second one to talk to to find out a little bit more about why he’s running for Congress. And this is John Eaves. Hey John.

John: [00:01:52] Hi Rico. Thank you so much for this wonderful opportunity to talk to you and your listening audience.

Rico: [00:01:56] Well, I appreciate you coming out to be able to do this, well coming out. We’re social media. We’re not quite on zoom, but I’m using something called switcher studio, which is letting us do all of this, and at a safe distance, I guess. So tell me, John with, what is it? Seven congressional candidates running in this race? And that’s just the democratic side. I can, this Republican. Yeah. Why do you want to do this? Tell them.

John: [00:02:27] Well, as you pointed out, it’s a, it’s a crowded field. It’s an open seat. The current Congressman in the office, the incumbent, is retiring. So there’s a lot of competition, a lot of people who want the position, but I think I’m pretty unique in that, number one, Rico, I want your listeners to know that service is just part of my DNA. I’ve been doing this, helping out people, a good part of my adult life. After I graduated from high school, went to Morehouse college. When I got to Morehouse, I rolled up my sleeves. I got in the community and doing that ever since got into political office 11 years ago as a chairman of Fulton County, after 11 years of service. I moved north to Gwinnett to live in Peachtree Corners and decided a year ago to run for Congress. And so to make a long story short, it’s about service, about leadership. It’s about making our communities better. And it’s about plotting for our future.

Rico: [00:03:24] Well, I’m glad you feel so good about it. I mean, you were born Floridian, born and raised in Florida. You moved to Jupiter in ‘95 you’ve, you’ve done a lot. I mean, you, you’ve been in the Peace Corps, I think, right?

John: [00:03:37] Yes, yes. Regional director, Peace Corps.

Rico: [00:03:39] And you’ve been chairman of the Fulton County board. So you feel the and all the things that you’ve done. I mean, that’s, I can go through a list. And you’re a poly PSI political science. The political junkie, just like, this is good. So, you know, I feel for you, there’s a lot of people running, and then normally this would be a tremendously hard race to run in a normal world. When you’re doing door to door, you’re doing meetings almost every night, maybe. Well that is gone now. How are you doing it now? How are you handling it in the, I can’t even say post COVID-19 world cause we’re still in it. So how are you handling that? How are you campaigning yet?

John: [00:04:30] Well Rico, that’s a fair question. I mean, you know, I used to love to play baseball and I was a great baseball player when I could hit the fastball. But when I got old enough and that curve ball started coming, it was hard for me to hit that one. And this is like a curveball. I mean it’s just a major adjustment and understandably so. People are struggling now trying to give, to come to grips with the new reality. Politics is not high on their priority. They’re worried about putting food on their table, whether the job is going to stay in place. The fact is, I’m in this race and you know, my asset is getting out there and knocking on doors and kissing babies and getting in front of people right now. I’ve got to transform and use the internet technology. Zoom, telephonic town hall meetings and use the virtual world to get my message out. That’s why this podcast is important because this is one of ways, many ways that I can get out and share my message and, and hopefully, for the voters to get a sense of my sincerity and my passion. So it’s, it’s tough. I mean, fundraising is challenging, particularly. I talked to a friend of mine last week who said, John, I’m going to stick to my promise to make a contribution to your campaign, but I lost a half a million dollars in the stock market. I have another friend who I talked to today and say she got furloughed. So it was very difficult for me to ask the potential donor or contribution when they’ve lost a lot of money in terms of their retirement savings or their day to day, and they didn’t. They live in, so it’s tough. You have to be sensitive. Well, you know, I just have to dig down deep and just keep plugging ahead.

Rico: [00:06:12] You know what’s interesting as you were saying that I’m thinking, I mean, I used to run, I used to be proud of campaigns in New York, in Brooklyn when I was younger. Did some stuff here early in late 1990s, early two thousands. Politics costs money. I mean, you, you have to spend the money in signage and all this stuff. Really it goes away. The only thing that doesn’t go away really is mailings. Maybe there are only two ways you can reach anyone is through a virtual world like zoom or the whole virtual world, right? Most of that doesn’t cost a lot of money to do in this room.

John: [00:06:47] Right.

Rico: [00:06:47] So at least that’s the saving grace, maybe.

John: [00:06:50] It is, it is. I saw the conventional wisdom marketing as well as running campaigns as you have to touch people so many times. And so that sort of, the magical number is seven times, believe it or not, you hit him with the, or you touch him with a mailer, you touch
him with a phone call, you touch him with a handshake. And after seven times, you remember the name. John, they remember the name Rico, right? But I think that yes, there’s a new reality that we have to adjust to. And so how can we really reach people through the virtual world? And it’s still this intimate and informative and personable. So to your point, there’s no cost to this. Which you also have to compete with. Everybody else is also using these platforms to get their message out.

Rico: [00:07:36] That’s right. So let’s get to that a little bit. Let’s talk a little bit about some of the things going on in this world. I mean, obviously, you know, president Trump who loves to do big mass meetings and convention centers, and he gets pumped up with that.He’s not doing it right. Biden is doing virtual town halls from Feinstein correctly, his basement in Maryland.

John: [00:08:01] In Delaware.

Rico: [00:08:02] In Delaware. There you go. And Bernie Sanders is the US Senator, so I mean, he has some availability there, although they’re changing the way they’re doing some of those things. So, you know, the economy’s changing for a lot of people. Not only politicians, obviously, but everyone else and I feel for them. I feel for the EMT, the fire, the police, but also feel for the grocer that has to pack the shelves with brand new paper, paper products. This morning at Ingles, by the way, went out, eight o’clock maybe six rolls, six packages of toilet paper and everything else was gone on those shelves. It’s a different world. How, how do you think Americans should react and behave in this, considering where we are right now, considering where Italy is right now, we’re China with, we’re with some of these other countries are like, especially with Italy, where it’s just so bad. There are so many hits in New York state with Governor Cuomo on the air every day. How can you know? What’s your perspective? What should we be doing? What can we think about where, where should we go, John?

John: [00:09:17] Great question, Rico. I think there’s several things we can do. Number one is what makes the United States unique? For me, having traveled around the world, whether it’s in Europe or Africa, South America or Asia, people often remark that what they like about Americans is sort of this spirit that we have in terms of looking out for our brothers and our sisters. And I think that now the tendency is to support our home, protect our own, but also think that we also have to do a two way street in terms of making sure that we can support our brothers and our sisters who are neighbors and even people who are outside of our neighborhood. So I think that’s sort of a spree decor in terms of helping others is one of the things that we must hold on to. But I think that over and beyond that is, I think it would be sort of an assessment of how we operate as Americans in this society. If any other crisis like this comes about, how can we make sure that our healthcare system is a lot more robust and responsive? Because the way I see it right now, there was a fractionalization of our health care delivery system, and that’s why it’s so challenging right now to get the resources that are needed to help people out right now. So I think there’s going to be a reevaluation of our, of our healthcare system. I also think there’s an opportunity for us to really critically look at our society and the great inequities that are present between the haves and the have nots.
You pointed out the people who are working in Ingles or Publix or Wendy’s or Chick-fil-A. In the meantime, those are people who don’t have any other means of living, so they have to work these low paying jobs. Whereas other folks in our society, in our community, where there’s Peachtree Corners or Lawrenceville, some of them may have professional jobs. You can work at home and are not necessarily in harm’s way. So I think the healthcare delivery system will be reassessed how it can be better and more equitable. And then just society in general. How can we minimize this wealth gap that we have in our society? Because I think it’s very clear that people who do not have the means who have to work, they’re potentially putting themselves in harmful situations.

Rico: [00:11:36] Well, they are, and I totally agree with you. I mean, it’s, you know, the cashier that has to check you out. The waste management people that have to pick up the garbage. I mean, that’s such a job, right? They can’t get six utility workers. I mean, they’re housing some of these utility workers on site pretty much, cause God forbid they get sick. The special ops jobs, right? They can’t do the job. Sounded like they could just hire someone on the street. God forbid they’d lose that. Where would the power go? You know, where would the water come from? So we’re not apocalyptic yet, thank goodness. Hopefully things will work out and this goes away, but the economy has changed, right?

John: [00:12:20] It has, it has, you know, so Congress passed a $2 trillion stimulus package last Friday, I believe, signed by the president. Some money will be coming down in terms of, I think a $1,200 or $1,500 check for adults who make under $75,000, I believe. And then households. And small businesses. But I believe that to a certain degree, that money is, even though it was, you need it for the economy. For the person who is poor, they need more than that. But a person who may be managing a small business that $10,000, maybe just a drop in the bucket of what’s needed. I’m not questioning anything that’s given, I think that something should be given, but I think that an every size fit all type approach may not necessarily be the best thing in terms of this big gap between those who have and those who do not have.

Rico: [00:13:26] I think that, you know, I mean obviously I think most of the work is a little the, the basics, right? $1,200 for 75,000 and under. $2,400 for a family, a married couple. It’s a couple $500 per kid. It’s one time payments. This thing looks like it’s going to go into May, not just April. It may be right. So I heard one Senator that said, listen, this is all we could do. Now most people want it. Most of the Senate wants to wait until the end of April to figure out, do we need to do this again? Right? Okay. The waiting piecemeal, it’s like they can’t even, they’re trying to put everything I know munition initially. Right? You wanted to put the dollars in your pocket as fast as possible. This is why it’s so basic and why our deployment is so basic to right. What kind of climate they’ll just plop on another $600 on top of it, and expand it. But is there more they can do, I mean, should they be doing something in addition to this, they’re going to ultimately pass more legislation that’s going to happen. They’re getting more thinking that it’s not as naive. We’re going to spend another couple of, or $3 trillion more after this shortly within the next 60 days, I bet. What do you think should be in the house?

John: [00:14:51] Well, I think you, the way you described it, I think it’s right. I have heard that the house right now is thinking about the next stimulus package. So that whenever we make it through this initial period, hopefully the house, because of some of the homework they’re doing right now, and ultimately the Senate would get on board. The next stimulus package will come. About in a lot more seamless way. I think it’s, I think in terms of the Coronavirus, we will know within the next two weeks how worse this thing is going to get. Well, what are the social distancing practices and that personal hygiene and the testing is going to lead to sort of a stabilization or flattening of the numbers. So I think the next two weeks are crucial in terms of how long this thing will persist and what the continued impact will be on the economy. So hopefully they are discussing negotiating, crafting ups with some sort of next step, next phase, stimulus that will come in place. Maybe as early as May or June. So that this initial outlay that goes will carry us at least for the next few months.

Rico: [00:16:16] The world has changed, right? They’re going to be changing the way we’re working. You can tell working is changing, right? The way most people are working from home now, I think there are companies that are figuring out at this point, wow, we don’t need these big offices. We can really do this work from home with Zoom and all these, well, the rest of the technology. I know my local boss at a small paper, he’s like, we don’t need that 2000 square foot office. We could go get a small office. Everyone can be working from home, right? The world is changing that way. We’re going from the gig economy. We’re doing this now. So how do some of these other issues that you’re, that’s near and dear to your heart? Like immigration, like I’m halfway to citizenship. Education. Maybe daycare for all, Medicare for all. I know there was a segment may, well Italy had Medicare for all and see what happened. I think once it’s apples to oranges when you’re talking, when someone talks. What issues do you see coming to the forefront in this type of world that you would like to attend to and your positions on those?

John: [00:17:29] You know, I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but I think, I think the thing that really struck me most about this is, and I’m an educator, but how folks who are struggling paycheck to paycheck. Their lives tremendously impacted as a result of this virus and the impact on the jobs that they have. And I believe that the American society will benefit better or best when there is more parity in terms of income distribution in our society. And I think that there’s gotta be some series of strategies that are going on right? The ship in terms of this imbalance, whether it’s in the more robust public education system, whether it is, pay wages, minimum pay wages, or raising up the minimum wage, or whether it’s job readiness training and more specialized areas that are better paying than they currently are. And you mentioned about how the workforce or the workplace may change. I think that there will be a more of a demand for specialized skills. And how can we diversify that workforce, so that people who are right now, perhaps the lot, the bottom third, can have those skills to be able to have middle class jobs. So I think that there will be a forcing of how can we stabilize the bottom third or the bottom two thirds of our society so that it can be a lot more equitable than it is right now.

Rico: [00:19:17] Yeah, I think I agree with you. I think education has to be certainly a big part of that. Whether it’s college free. Although not everyone needs college, right? Some of the stuff that, that’s in need, electricians, plumbers, Hvac, people that work power plants and such. Some of it’s just certification. Some of it’s good, just knowledge, right? Apprenticeship was big in Europe and Germany. And I’m beginning to see some of that here, beginning to see, what used to be called the vocational high school when I was younger. They’re not calling that anymore. They’re calling it may be blended education or a different way of a different phrase, but it’s all the same thing right. It’s teaching a kid coming out of high school to be able to do a job. Do you, do you see more of that?

John: [00:20:12] Rico without question. So you mentioned about German education. So I’ve visited Germany several times, and they, so they have, I think it’s called Polytechnic institutes. I’ve been to Finland and technical training is a lot more sexier in many parts of Europe than it is over here. There’s a stigma attached to vocational or technical training, right? The reality is these individuals who are trained have a skill and they’re paid very well. I’m a college professor. I love a college education, university education, but you can also have an alternative type of education that is the training of the hands, and I think that it has to be more of an acceptance, more of a celebration of those people who go to that track because they too are valuable people in our societies. So I think that, whatever you call it, absent of vocational, which may have had a negative stigma, we have to really begin to think in terms of how we can provide a better and more specialized workforce.

Rico: [00:21:16] Right. Yeah, I totally agree with you there. There are high paying jobs in many of them too. They just need the skill to be able to attend to them. What about immigration? What about the 12 million plus illegal immigrants or undocumented immigrants that are in the United States? I’m firstborn American generation in my family. My parents came from Italy. They were sponsored. He had a job when he came here. Not much money, a few dollars in his pocket, but at least he had a job and a place to stay. And he worked his way up. So what do you think about the, you know, and there and the immigrant population here? Not only, well, they are hidden in a way. And I prayed vice possibly, and that with COVID-19, having to deal with that. Where do you think that should, do you think that should change where we are right now?

John: [00:22:15] I do. So like you, I’m a product of the immigrant community. My grandfather immigrated here from Jamaica in 1913. He was an honorable man, hardworking man, and raised 13 children. Most of them went to college. And so I have a passion and I have a sensitivity towards the immigration or the immigrant community. My grandfather, he lived here. He lived to be 99 years old.

Rico: [00:22:39] Wow, God bless him.

John: [00:22:39] He was not officially an American system citizen. He was undocumented. But it’s still, Oh yeah. He came, he went to Panama, came to New York city, ultimately ended up in Jacksonville, Florida was not American citizen, but he was the most honorable man that I’ve
ever met and law abiding and a contributor to society. And so I believe that the 12 million or so that are here, who are undocumented, there should be a path towards citizenship. I think that they are already working well, contributing to society, paying taxes, working jobs, albeit maybe jobs as landscapers or working in people’s homes. Well, why not provide a pathway to citizenship for all immigrants who are coming in, in the future? Let’s be fair. People from Europe coming in freely and being reluctant about people who are coming from central America. I think we have to be consistent. We are a society or a country of immigrants, and so I think we need to be fair, consistent. I do think that there may be some sort of criteria so that there is a process. Well, let’s be sure. Let’s make sure we’re fair and consistent.

Rico: [00:23:57] Would you think of a process where, for sure the children of undocumented documented immigrants could become US citizens, whereas the parents that may be undocumented become permanent residents. I mean, there’s a difference, right?

John: [00:24:14] Yeah. There, there is a difference. So, I was in office when president Obama was president and came up with the dreamers act or the dreamers position. In terms of protecting those who are born here. And I’m supportive of that. I think that legislation or that policy sort of caught up in the court system right now, but I think that, the children who are, the products of those one documented should have a special status because they actually were born here in the United States.

Rico: [00:24:47] Yeah. You do respect them, because there’ll be people asking, I’m sure you do respect borders. You do believe that we, America should have borders and they should be strong borders too. Every sovereign nation has that link.

John: [00:25:01] I agree. I don’t think that we need to have a big wall to, you know, cross the Southern border. I’m just sort of philosophically against that because I think that the intention behind the current administration is more, it’s more negative than positive. But I do think we need to have a process for people to come into this country.

Rico: [00:25:21] Okay. As far as Medicare for all, which is something that Bernie Sanders talks about, and that not Biden, of course. And everyone has a variation of that, right? Where you keep your private insurance, but whoever doesn’t want to, maybe the rest of them go on Medicare for all that side. Or we eliminate private insurance and we have Medicare for all, it’s a whole different thing. The economy with which shift a little bit right? Jobs would be if there’s no private companies doing it, then in that industry, that would change. Right. Where do you fall on that? What do you, what would be the right way?

John: [00:26:00] So you asked earlier about the impact of COVID or the Coronavirus, right. I think that one of the things that’s gonna come out of this crisis is a reassessment of our healthcare delivery system. I think it’s apparent that it’s fractionalized. There’s a degree of consistencies in terms of whether you’re in an urban environment versus a suburban environment or rural environment. There’s an issue of, you know, the quality of care. There’s an
issue of the mobilization of resources that are needed, where people are. I think that if, if there’s anything that will come along with the reassessment of the healthcare delivery system. I think there may be a case where a Medicare for all type system might not be a bad idea after all. As a member of Congress, I’m going to commit myself to being a part of the conversation of how do we get there. So pre-covid, I was strongly Obamacare, let’s improve it. But now that I’m in the midst of COVID it’s like, you know what. That it made need to be something a little bit more stronger and consistent than what we have in place. And even if we try to tweak what we have in place, maybe the aspirational Medicare for all that Bernie Sanders and to a lesser degree Elizabeth Warren was saying, Warren was saying, might not be a bad idea. Let’s see how we can work towards that over a course of X number of years, because I think Germany has a nationalized system. I think France has a nationalized system. I’m not sure about Italy, but I know Germany does, and they’ve dealt with the coronavirus a lot more effectively than we have.

Rico: [00:27:48] Yeah. Well, yeah, I think culturally too, it’s a little different though.

John: [00:27:53] I agree. I mean, there’s some nuances. I mean, in terms of the culture and the lifestyle, whatever of the people. But I do think that there may be some degree of an answer that’s a little bit better than what we’ve been doing right now.

Rico: [00:28:10] And no one, no one’s saying that the government will be Socialist government. No one is saying we’re not going to have a capitalist system of free market system, we’re just talking about one segment. But what we do, and we do really well, that maybe we could do well for everyone else in this country now.

John: [00:28:27] Right, right. Yeah.

Rico: [00:28:30] Right. And I mean, the one thing that I keep looking at is. The one, one of the things is that, you know, with the undocumented immigrants, they’re number one, they can’t afford insurance. They don’t have insurance. They’re maybe afraid to go to the hospital or to get checked for Coronavirus. And, that’s not a good place to be as a country. Right.

John: [00:28:51] Not a good place to be. Especially with all the resources.

Rico: [00:28:54] Yeah. Excuse my cat

John: [00:28:58] You have company. Rico: [00:29:00] He’s going off on me. So, you know, we’ve, we’ve discussed, we’ve talked about a lot of different issues. Is there another issue, John, that you would like to talk now and I can get into this as well?

John: [00:29:14] Yeah. I think that the district that I am, that I want to represent is a very special district. District 7 has a population of 730,000-740,000 people and is one of the most diverse districts, jurisdictions in the entire country. I think that we have a potential of being a model of
how we do it, and I think that diversity is wonderful, but I’m also thinking it’s important for us to have what I consider, what I call it, inclusion. So how can everybody be at the table in terms of really supporting and benefiting from all the services that are present within district seven when I have a history of bringing people together and working towards a common goal. And I do believe that the leadership that I can provide along with the representation that I can provide, can really work towards making district seven, which is 80% of Gwinnett County, and about 20% of Four South County, a model district for the entire nation. In terms of being a model, not just diversity, but also inclusion.

Rico: [00:30:18] What do you think about the fact that we’ve had the state had to move, obviously because of the situation, the primary to May 19th? And now with mailing a six point something million absentee ballots. Now some people are getting confused. They might think that’s the ballot, but that’s actually requesting what you think that’s going to be complicated. How do you think you, do have confidence in the system at this point?

John: [00:30:49] That’s a fair question. I’m a little conflicted, you know, for me, having served as a chairman of a County government, and I have experience where you change a precinct from a library to a school, and the confusion that comes with the changing of our precinct, where a person goes, if that is confusing to some of our electorate, this whole process that we’re doing right now can be confusing. And so I think it’s an effort to try to mitigate a tough situation, but I’m not sure if this is a perfect solution to the situation. I think that we’d have to almost consider, instead of potentially pushing this whole election date back into June, perhaps just seeing how the coronavirus unfolds and ideally there’s a degree of stability in our society. Maybe even a little bit more freedom of movement, and the law with the, mailing of the ballots in some sort of controlled way. Still providing the opportunity for people to go onto a precinct. Because I just think that at this point, solely relying on mailing is gonna, it may not be successful.

Rico: [00:32:18] I think there is, the ability to, I think Georgia will still keep the ability, the ability for, voting in person, starting April 27th. I don’t know how that would work.

John: [00:32:34] Yeah.

Rico: [00:32:35] You gotta be six feet apart. You get it. You can’t have more than 10 people in a location unless they change that by, by that point.

John: [00:32:43] Yeah, that’s the issue, Rico. I think, I’m not a betting person and an amount of odds person, but I think that there, from where I sit, there may be a strong possibility to pushing this thing off a little bit further.

Rico: [00:32:58] Yeah, it seems today it’s just, it’s changing every day, so who knows where we’re going to be. Certainly, it’s tough for you, tough for every candidate to get out the message, especially when it’s such a crowded field too. That’s not easy to begin with in a normal election. So I feel for you, I hope that you can get your message out. We’re at the end of our time
together. So what I want to ask you is this, I want you to be up to what, what I always say you should ask for the vote. So if you want a two minute elevator speech, if you will ask for that vote and tell people where they can find more information about you.

John: [00:33:41] Well, first of all, again, thank you for the opportunity to speak to your audience. Give me an opportunity to let people know who I am. So, once again, John Eaves and I’m running to be the next representative of District 7 Gwinnett County or South County and Congress, and this is an opportunity for the citizens of the district to vote and elect a leader. I think that leadership matters and I certainly have the background. 11 years of running a major local government and the state of Georgia and the metropolitan Atlanta area. Strong track record, strong professional and personal and academic credentials. But more importantly, I certainly have a desire to, to just serve and lead and to represent. And so friends, I’m going to be running on a platform of a stronger healthcare delivery system. Accessibility and affordability of healthcare for all citizens of our, of our district as well as the entire country. Smart immigration policy, smart, fair and gun control policy, transit. Even though we talked a little bit about the workforce changing. To me, transit is still important. We are part of a region. And for Gwinnett County to not be connected by way of a regional transit system, I think is a mistake. So I’ll be a proponent of that, but I’m also gonna to be a strong proponent of, of small and medium sized businesses to do all that I can to support them, to make them more vibrant in district seven but also position them to do procurement with a state and local government as well as federal government. So I’m very excited about my candidacy. I’ve been running for the past year. I’ve had a chance to go to constituencies and neighborhoods. The district was truly, we have a very special district, and I think that most citizens right now are hungry for somebody who is a leader and can provide strong leadership and be a great representative. So again, my name is John Eaves. Check me out by going to my website, which is EavesforCongress.com. So Rico, thank you so much for the opportunity and I look forward to hearing from your listening audience.

Rico: [00:36:18] Sure. Hang in there with me for a sec. I’m just going to sign off with everyone and tell them where to find some information. I want to thank everyone for joining me. I just noticed that instead of Georgia, it’s just one of 4,000 coronavirus identifications. So be safe out there. I’ve been out there wearing surgical gloves, going shopping at Ingles and Publix, and there’s not a lot of people out there. They’re there early morning, so just be safe out there. Be thankful when you see the fire and the police and the empties out there, even the people manning the grocery stores, the supermarkets, they’re there for us. People putting out, putting on the lights at night and water that we drink. Just a lot of things that cascading effect of what’s going on. Even though we may be working from home, there are people working out in the streets to make sure that our world is still out there. So be safe, and be good and just be thankful.

John: [00:37:21] Thank you so much, Rico.

Rico: [00:37:24] Thank you. See you guys

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Pest Control Without Harsh Chemicals

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Two men and one woman standing next to a blue SUV with company logo on it and holding a sign for Geo Mosquito.

Local small business owner has found a way to keep mosquitos at bay with natural remedies

Geoff Krstovic, a former firefighter, transitioned into the mosquito control business after a divorce, driven by the desire for flexible work.

“Nobody ever thinks they’re going to be into bugs and chemistry when they grow up,” he said. “It’s not like, ‘I want to be a firefighter. I want to be an astronaut.’ Nobody thinks that they want to go out there whacking bugs or says, ‘I want to be in pest control.’”

But as he progressed in his new career, Krstovic took an interest in how to get rid of pests without using harsh, man-made chemicals.

“The more certifications, the more promotions and everything that I got, [and] the more entomology classes I started taking, … I really started to realize what we were putting out into the environment,” he said.

Pest control technician from Geo Mosquito spraying a customer's yard.
Krstovic treating a customer’s yard. The spraying protocol is customized to each property, resulting in more effective mosquito control.

“I spend 90% of my time outside, and I see so much wildlife. So, when I would see a deer eating a leaf or a rabbit run out of bushes that I just treated, it really made me start to think about the effects of what we were doing to them.”

Not to mention pollinators like bees and butterflies.

“When I [would finish a treatment], I’d look back at the yard and everything that I’d seen flying around was just gone,” he said.

As a parent and a pet owner, he knew there had to be a better way to get rid of pests but still safeguard ourselves and the animals around us.

With a growing concern for the environmental impact, he developed a natural mosquito treatment system. The company he was working for wasn’t interested in his new product, so he started his own business.

Road to pest control

Krstovic graduated from Georgia State with a major in English. He joked that many of his contemporaries in the field have similar backgrounds.

“There’s an ongoing joke in the pest community where it’s like … what do you go to college [for] to be a pest [control] owner? Well, you major in liberal arts, English or writers’ composition,” he said.

Large orange and black butterfly resting on a pink flower bush with green leaves in a backyard garden.
Geo Mosquito protects vital plants and pollinators with eco-friendly mosquito control.

“A lot of the other owners I met had the same degrees. A big part of it is that creativity aspect, and in pest control, you’re allowed to think outside the box, and you’re allowed to adjust and adapt to what you’re seeing and use different methods.”

That desire to do things differently led him to find a way to help keep people safe from West Nile, Zika virus and Eastern equine encephalitis while they enjoyed time outdoors.

With a lot of research and a little help from relatives with backgrounds in chemistry and engineering, he came up with a formulation based on using essential oils.

The dangers of mosquitos

“After you meet your first client that tells you about their experience just walking to a mailbox and they get West Nile, it changes your perspective 100%,” Krstovic said, “because you’re not just out there killing bugs, you’re out there protecting people and their families.”

Mosquitos are often called the most dangerous animal on earth, with the diseases they spread killing over a million people annually according to statistics from the World Health Organization and Centers for Disease Control.

While the more serious mosquito diseases don’t pose the greatest risk to most communities, there are common ailments that can show up in people and pets, including bites that get infected and heartworm in dogs.

Reaching out to the community

Though people were a little skeptical about Krstovic’s natural pest control methods at first, Erin Rhatigan decided to give it a try.

“Geoff cold-called our house in 2021 and revealed that he actually grew up in the house next door,” she said. “He really wanted to return to his roots and offer his services.”

Rhatigan has three young children, and with her home being situated on the Chattahoochee River, the outdoor areas are beautiful, but also plagued by a lot of mosquitos.

“We’re very focused on spending time outside, and our kids are very, very active, so they’re outside a lot,” she said.

But Rhatigan and her kids are also very sensitive to mosquito bites, and the spraying services she tried year after year weren’t satisfactory.

“I had gone through every franchise. I had used the large companies every season. I was switching because it seemed like it would be effective at the beginning, and then it would lose effectiveness,” she said.

She was also concerned about the toxicity of the chemicals being used.

“I felt like using toxic chemicals on our property was not only bad for our family, but because we are on the river, we’re kind of a steward to the environment as well, … so when he mentioned that the product that he uses to control the mosquitoes was eco-friendly, I was happy to try it,” she shared.

Local solution gets a local investor

The treatment was so effective that Rhatigan isn’t just a customer, she and her husband decided to invest in the business.

A woman and two men sitting at a kitchen table with snacks, drinks and notebooks discussing plans for business expansion.
From left: Erin Rhatigan, Geoff Krstovic and Nathan Rhatigan mapping out 2025 expansion plans.

“It was better than anything I had used for the previous 10 years,” she said. “The amazing thing is that when he sprays the property, you have this effervescence of the essential oils in the air.”

She recommended Geo Mosquito to everyone who’d listen to her, and eventually Krstovic took over maintaining the facilities at Rhatigan’s community pool.

“[What he was doing] kind of piqued my husband’s and my interest because we were looking for a small business to invest in locally,” she said. “I’m now home with the kids, but I have a long career in sales, and my husband is in sales as well.”

Within a year, the couple became active investors.

“We love the origin story of this relationship because it’s reflective of how friendly and supportive the local business community is in Peachtree Corners,” she said.

Caring about the work

Krstovic attributes his success to caring about the work, attention to detail and understanding client needs. He doesn’t just spray the yard and leave; he has a system of mapping out problem areas and educating clients about prevention.

A pest control technician from Geo Mosquito talks to a woman wearing a red top and black pants on the steps leading up to her home's front door.
Krstovic with Geo Mosquito customer discussing potential problem areas on the property.

“We’re looking at anything that could hold a water source and eliminating that, asking our clients what time of the day they’re getting eaten up, what part of their body and what part of their yard,” he said.

“That helps us figure out the species of mosquito that’s attacking them, so we know where to target, because different species have different nesting sites.”

Growing the business

Geo Mosquito has begun working with Vox-pop-uli to upgrade their logo, website and promotional materials.

“Geoff is a typical entrepreneur — protective of what he’s doing,” Rhatigan said. “So going through the steps of changing the logo, coming up with a new tagline, starting to do some marketing, is both exciting and a little scary.”

But the team at Vox-pop-uli has been a tremendous resource — helping them go at their own pace.

“This first year of investment was about seeing what the market interest is and expanding brand awareness,” said Rhatigan. “Vox-pop-uli offers so many services, it’s daunting for an emerging company to manage so many different contractors: creative, graphic design, printing, mailing. But they have a great, responsive organization that has been very helpful.”

Next steps

With a proprietary formulation for the mosquito abatement, Geo Mosquito wants to bottle the solution and sell it nationally.

Additionally, in 2025, the company plans to expand into ecofriendly pest control services for inside the home. They are also interested in working with local municipalities, churches and schools to expand their mosquito control services.

The Local Thread: This business profile series is proudly supported by Vox-pop-uli, championing local stories and the communities we serve.

This article is also available in the print and digital edition of the Jan/Feb issue of Southwest Gwinnett magazine.

Photos courtesy of Geo Mosquito.

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Recreational Soccer Club Celebrates 50 Years of Play

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According to physicians, educators and child psychologists, there are myriad reasons parents encourage their young children to play soccer:

  • Physical fitness: Soccer is a fast-paced sport that can help improve cardiovascular health, muscular strength, flexibility and endurance. 
  • Motor skills: Soccer involves running, kicking, dribbling and passing, which can help develop balance, agility and coordination. 
  • Socialization: Soccer can help children make friends from different backgrounds and cultures. 
  • Teamwork: Soccer is a team sport that teaches children the value of cooperation and working together towards a common goal. 
  • Life skills: Soccer can help children develop discipline, perseverance and resilience. 
  • Emotional intelligence: Soccer can help children develop empathy and emotional intelligence. 
  • Stress reduction: Playing soccer can help reduce stress and anxiety by releasing endorphins that elevate mood. 
  • Confidence: Consistent practice and dedication can help children build confidence and overcome obstacles. 
  • Gender equality: Participating in sports like soccer can help break down gender stereotypes. 
  • Enjoyment: Soccer can help encourage children to enjoy their childhood and stay in school.

It’s for those objectives and more that members of the Peachtree Corners Football Club (PCFC) are working so hard to sustain and grow their program.

Kids in blue jerseys playing soccer
photo courtesy of Peachtree Corners Football Club

A growing community

Nearly three years ago, three local parents had the idea to build an organization for their children to reap the benefits of recreational soccer.

“We found out that we were linked to the athletic club called Peachtree Booster Club,” said Gavin Meech, a club committee member, parent coach and member of the small group that revitalized the soccer program. “It’s sort of an overarching group that also looks after the roller hockey at Pinckneyville Park in Norcross.”

They realized that back in 1975, a youth soccer program called the Jones Bridge Soccer Club was formed at Jones Bridge Park. Now renamed the Peachtree Corners Football Club, the parents decided to put the time and energy into revitalizing — and growing — the decades-old program.

Kids playing in a soccer match, some in red jerseys and some in blue. They're running on the field and one has the ball.
photo courtesy of Peachtree Corners Football Club

In February 2022, the three coaches had 170 kids. The program now has nearly 300 kids across 30 teams. The club emphasizes community involvement, with over 5,000 volunteer hours annually from parents and coaches. Challenges include managing growth and ensuring sustainability, though the club aims to expand its field space and engage more local businesses for partnerships.

The organization will soon celebrate 50 years of providing youth recreational level soccer to the local community in the southwest corner of Gwinnett County. And registration for the upcoming season is nearly full, highlighting the need for continued community support and involvement.

Goalie on a youth soccer team, wearing a red jersey, blocking a soccer ball with his foot
photo courtesy of Peachtree Corners Football Club

Bringing new energy to an old club

Initially, the group faced challenges in forming the soccer club, including linking with the Peachtree Booster Club and learning administrative tasks.

“That first season was a steep learning curve, and we ended up, I think, with about 170 kids,” said Meech. “So we were driving around Peachtree Corners, sticking the little signs anywhere that we were legally allowed. A few of us were grabbing anybody that would slightly suggest they would help by being a parent coach and things like that.”

Fast forward to this past season where there were just under 300 kids and 30 teams.

Three kids in blue jerseys on a soccer field playing a match. The kid in front has their leg pulled back, getting ready to kick the ball.
photo courtesy of Peachtree Corners Football Club

“We are now oversubscribed,” he added. “Our return rate is in excess of 80% of the kids and their families. So, it’s really become something that once they join, they return, and through word of mouth, more want to join.”

The club is community-centric, with kids from local schools like Simpson, Berkeley Lake and Cornerstone taking part. Volunteers naturally step forward and get involved, with no formal process.

“[Rapid growth] is a great problem to have. So we’re working with [Gwinnett County Parks and Recreation] at the moment to try and see if we can gain more field space,” Meech said. “We started to utilize the big field near the Aquatic Center. It’s similar in size to Jones Bridge field, but it’s got a slightly different classification at the moment.”

Families sitting in outdoor chairs under umbrellas along the side of a soccer field, watching their kids play.
photo courtesy of Peachtree Corners Football Club

Right now, several clubs are using that space, so a huge obstacle is finding some place to play that’s local so that families won’t have to traipse all over the metro area.

“We don’t want to lose our identity by expanding too big, because that’s hard to manage,” he added.

Community engagement and future plans

Committee member Mathew Shamloo credits Meech with pulling him into the mix.

“I’d say that Gavin has a very unassuming gravitational pull,” he said. “There’s no real process to it. I think it’s just naturally the people who want to be involved step forward and, whether or not they are asked, they’re just kind of pulled in inch by inch.”

Shamloo is also a coach, but had no prior experience.

“I had no real ties to soccer before this,” he said. “My daughter wanted to play. My background is in basketball.”

So he utilized some of the fundamentals that apply to any team sport and researched best coaching practices.

“I want her to play soccer because it’s easily accessible, it’s local, it’s right around the corner from us,” he said. “It was like, ‘Hey, there’s soccer. We can start there.’”

Like most parents, Meech and Shamloo don’t have dreams that their kids will turn into David Beckham or Brandi Chastain. But if the kids have those aspirations, PCFC has ties to bigger opportunities.

“I think what we’ve managed to achieve is we have raised the bar on rec sports, and we are able to compete, but we’re fundamentally a rec club,” said Meech. “I think some of the challenges of the past [are] where you get to a point where you say, ‘Well, should we become an academy? Should we offer the next level of competition to the kids?’ But sort of the mentality we’ve had, and kind of our foundation, is no, that Peachtree Corners is a local rec club.”

In order to keep doing what they do in an amateur Ted Lasso fashion and stay around for another 50 years, the club focuses on community and engagement with local businesses for partnerships rather than sponsorships.

Youth soccer team with coaches holding up a giant cookie cake after a match
photo courtesy of Peachtree Corners Football Club

“Our soccer club and families are more than just a group of people that meet for our kids to play a sport,” said Meech. “Traditionally, you engage with local business for sponsorship, but we’re very lucky in the sense that, as a nonprofit supported by parks and rec with facilities, we don’t need a huge amount of sponsorship.”

Expanding the community

Soccer is easily accessible globally because all you need is a ball and a goal and some grass or something similar, so the costs are relatively low, he added.

“We’ve been able to engage with local restaurants, other sporting facilities and work in more of a partnership with them to create this wider community beyond Jones Bridge soccer playing fields,” he said.

Both men pointed out that they go to Town Center or other sporting events with their families and inevitably bump into Peachtree Corners FC players and family members everywhere.

Kids from opposing soccer teams lining up to high five each other after a match
photo courtesy of Peachtree Corners Football Club

“Local businesses reach out to us and try and find out how they can contribute,” said Meech.

Although the club is at capacity, it still invites families and businesses to visit and see the activities firsthand. The committee members want to build awareness and community involvement, as the club aims to continue growing and providing a positive experience for all involved while maintaining its community-centric focus.

For more information about the Peachtree Corners Football Club, visit pcfcsoccer.com.

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From Brooklyn to Belfast: A Peacemaker’s Story

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Man standing in replica of the oval office at The Carter Center

Many of us are consumed by the day-to-day of life’s hustle and bustle, doing our best to navigate our relationships, provide for our families and live comfortably. A select few meet with great success on all fronts.

Fewer still somehow manage to lead extraordinarily accomplished existences with gumption, energy and talent left to spare, positively impacting circles far larger than their own family unit. 

One such exceptional person, and longtime Peachtree Corners resident, is Jim Gaffey. Allow me to introduce you to the most extraordinary neighbor you never knew you had. I had the honor of speaking to him while he was spending time at his second home in the North Carolina mountains.

With a charming wife, thriving children and grandkids entering the fold, the former BellSouth executive is winning in the game of life. But it’s his heart for seeing others win that is something to behold.

He worked up from an entry-level installer pulling cables to a successful career in telecommunications, and from a first-generation Irish American teaching youngsters to read in Spanish Harlem to having a hand in peacemaking efforts in Northern Ireland.

With modesty, Gaffey would tell you that his work in Northern Ireland wasn’t remarkable because there were a plethora of well-funded protests taking place when he was a young man in the 1960s and 70s. I beg to differ.

Why The Troubles were troubling 

After gaining its independence in 1922, Ireland seceded from the United Kingdom to become the independent Irish Free State except for the six northeastern counties that comprise Northern Ireland, creating the partition of Ireland.

The Nationalists, largely Catholics, wanted Northern Ireland to become part of the republic of Ireland. The overwhelmingly Protestant Unionists wished to remain part of the United Kingdom. The violent sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland known as The Troubles erupted in 1968 after having been stoked by hundreds of years of tumultuous history.

protest march in new york city in the 1970s

Gaffey described the rather draconian, anti-Catholic situation, which he prefers to view through the lens of “the haves versus the have-nots” instead of joining the media in playing-up the battle of the religions. In truth, voting laws seemed fair; but in practice, they were very unfavorable to Catholics. 

Local voting was subject to property qualifications which made matters even worse. Business owners — disproportionately Protestant — who owned multiple properties got multiple votes.

“You had some people with no vote at all and some people with overloaded gerrymandering of the districts and sitting in parliament,” Gaffey said. This would ensure a Protestant majority in as many constituencies as possible.

Hence, in Northern Ireland, the religious makeup of your community determined the quality of your housing, public services and the jobs available to you. Peaceful protests were not kindly received.

Understandably, those who had enjoyed centuries of unfair advantages wanted to keep things just as they were. 

Brooklyn boy

The son of Irish immigrants, Gaffey was moved by the civil unrest going on across the pond. He authored an essay about the crisis while studying at City University of New York with a focus on the Special Powers Act passed by the Parliament of Northern Ireland in 1922. The act was meant to restore order but was ruthlessly used to suppress the Nationalists’ opposition to politics that significantly favored the Unionists.

Young man in a button-up shirt and leather jacket in the 1970s
Jim Gaffey at 27 years old

“The Special Powers Act allowed the authorities in Northern Ireland to arrest without charge and hold indefinitely up to six years without a trial or any kind of a court hearing. People were placed in concentration camp facilities,” Gaffey explained. 

The British Army began a policy of internment without trial in Northern Ireland in 1971 during Operation Demetrius which would last until 1975.

Skin in the game

In 1969, when Gaffey’s university paper was distributed to the head of the Transport Workers Union in New York City and to the National Council of Churches, it was decided he should be sent to Northern Ireland to learn what was going on and report back to the United States. The street smarts he’d acquired growing up in Brooklyn were about to be put to the test.

Gaffey first landed in Ireland on August 15, 1969 — the day after the British army had arrived. Armed only with legal writing pads, he was instructed to walk the streets, meet and live with the locals, observe, write weekly reports detailing his findings and send them through the postal system, as was customary then.

“When something big was happening, like the British army going into a certain area, we used telegrams,” he said.

Three white men wearing suits, standing together and smiling for the photo
Jim Gaffey with First Minister Peter Robinson (left) and Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness (right)

“The Unionists began to attack and burn whole villages, trying to force out the Nationalists and stop the civil rights movement. The British government decided that too many people were being killed and driven out of their homes. Whole rows of homes were burnt down. All those families had to flee,” Gaffey said.

The U.S. didn’t want to interfere but craved a better understanding of what was going on with their close allies in the United Kingdom.

“People here, even people in Irish organizations, couldn’t understand why two Christian communities were attacking one another,” Gaffey explained.

Between 1968 and 1972, Gaffey traveled to Northern Ireland 12 times, living in both Unionist and Nationalist communities, learning from them. He shared what was unfolding with the U.S. by reporting to congressional officials and testifying to the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

An uncomfortable situation

Asked if he was fearful, Gaffey replied, “I was very cautious. I was stopped and frisked in the streets by British soldiers and held for a period of time until my paperwork could be approved by some officer at least 12 times,” he revealed. 

Anyone moving from one tiny community to the other in that area — no larger than Connecticut — or traveling with recognizable people as he was, was likely to be stopped, especially if they were obviously not dock workers or coal miners, the type of individuals one would expect to see there.

Two men standing in front of a small monument and fountain
Jim Gaffey with Nobel Laureate, the late John Hume. Hume won the award for peace negotiations with the IRA.

Observers knew to always carry their passports and visas, and say they were just visiting friends and relatives if questioned. “We were sent in with the cards of American diplomatic officials to call in case it got serious,” Gaffey said.

Gaffey recounts harrowing tales like that of the late John Hume being taken to meet the Irish Republican Army (IRA) in the trunk of a car to start the peace process because he wasn’t allowed to know where he was going. 

Hidden under a blanket is how Gaffey was once driven speedily across the border into the Republic of Ireland when violence broke out in Derry. Besides developing an instinct for knowing when it was time to leave, when he wasn’t evading hostilities, he found himself in discussions with very aggressive, angry people resisting the push for change. 

“Communities were devastated, people were beaten. It was a horrible situation,” Gaffey stated.

Forward, march!

“I was in three civil rights marches in Dungannon, Belfast and Londonderry: two in 1970 and one in 1971. I was pelted with rocks and stones by folks who did not like these marches in Northern Ireland,” Gaffey shared.

Just the thought of marching in such circumstances with 12 to 14,000 people organized by the Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association (NICRA) would strike terror in the hearts of most people. But men like Gaffey are a different breed.

“I was too busy ducking horse and cow manure to be terrified. When you were marching through these farmlands into cities where an election might be coming up, they got pretty feisty,” he said.

According to Gaffey, Nationalist chants were met with cries of “No surrender!” by Unionists who had a monopoly on everything.

— “We shall overcome!”

— “No surrender!”

— “We want jobs!”

— “No surrender!” 

When the guns came out and things got extremely violent, the observers were pulled out of Northern Ireland. 

After Ireland

What Gaffey had witnessed in Northern Ireland motivated him to help even more. He became the National Student Organizer of the National Association for Irish Justice (NAIJ) and traveled across the United States speaking at numerous universities including Yale, Harvard and Berkeley.

His goal? To educate students about what was going on in Northern Ireland and encourage them to become involved by protesting the blatant discrimination against the Catholics.

“We were the financial supporter in the United States for the NICRA who modeled themselves after the Civil Rights Movement in America,” Gaffey said. Able to garner support from the universities he visited, NAIJ chapters sprang up. Gaffey later served as the National Coordinator of the NAIJ.

Reprinted photo of Jim Gaffey and former first lady Laura Bush
Jim Gaffey with First Lady Laura Bush; photo courtesy of Jim Gaffey

As the Coordinator, Gaffey formally represented the NICRA in the United States at speaking engagements, public presentations and protests.

Over the years, Gaffey has met with four sitting U.S. Presidents about Northern Ireland: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. and Laura Bush and Barack and Michelle Obama. He served on a committee of 20 charged with organizing the Obamas’ first trip to Ireland.

Luck of the Irish

John Lennon, who had participated in a march in London, backed the civil rights movement and supported the NICRA. Lennon attended NICRA meetings and spoke at rallies in the United States. Gaffey had dinners with both he and Yoko Ono

“He carried around our first son,” Gaffey beamed. “He was one of the most empathetic people I’ve ever met. Anything that was happening around him affected him emotionally, almost physically. When he was associated with us, he was taking in every bit of information,” he added.

Lennon and Ono wrote “The Luck of the Irish” in 1971, donating all proceeds from the song to Irish civil rights organizations in Ireland and New York. Other supporters of the cause were Arlo Guthrie and the group Peter, Paul and Mary, who entertained at rallies and fundraisers free of charge, as did Lennon.

The lyrics of U2’s signature song, “Sunday Bloody Sunday” evoke the horrors of one of the darkest days of the Troubles in Northern Ireland when British troops shot and killed 13 unarmed Roman Catholic civil rights supporters, injuring 14 others (one later died), during a protest march in Derry on Sunday, January 30, 1972.

The Good Friday Agreement

On April 10, 1998, Irish Nationalist politicians John Hume and David Trimble, the Northern Irish leader, steered the Protestant majority and their Catholic rivals into a peace deal known as The Good Friday Agreement.

“Unfortunately, Trimble doesn’t get a lot of play because his community hated him for doing it,” Gaffey said.

A signed copy of The Belfast Agreement
An original copy of the Good Friday Agreement

The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded jointly to Hume and Trimble that year “for their efforts to find a peaceful solution to the conflict in Northern Ireland.”

When it was all said and done, 3,720 people in a population of about 1.5 million were killed in Northern Ireland over a 30-year period during the Troubles.

With 21 miles of “peace walls,” separating Irish republican from British loyalist neighborhoods, increasing in number and size since the signing of the Good Friday Agreement, it’s clear there is ongoing turmoil. 

Martin Luther King III

In 2015, Gaffey was asked by those in Northern Ireland trying to settle things down to bring his friend Martin Luther King III with him to meet face-to-face with people on both sides. Gaffey followed through with King by his side.

“I think eventually, possibly within our lifetimes, we’ll witness the unification of Northern Ireland and Ireland into one country,” Gaffey stated. Despite the continued unrest, Gaffey maintains a vision of hope. Call it pollyannaish if you must, but I think I’ll join him in his prediction of a better tomorrow.

Avocation life

Gaffey discusses avocations like they’re as essential as breathing. I suspect he assumes we all partake in multiple activities in addition to our regular occupations. 

In 2002, he founded The Gaffey Group, an international trading company. He’s brought 47 companies out of Northern Ireland to the United States on trade missions. Today, he assists the successful ones by procuring investors.

A group of men in suits walking together and talking outdoors
Walking in Derry, Northern Ireland. Jim Gaffey (right) with his friend, Martin Luther King III and Martin McGuinness, former chief of staff for the IRA

“I’ve gone on trade missions to Northern Ireland with Governor Sonny Perdue and Lieutenant Governor Casey Cagle. I also took Governor Bob Riley of Alabama and a team on a trade mission there,” Gaffey said.

Gaffey serves on the Peace Harmony Joy Alliance which mirrors his own belief in leading a purposeful life. 

As an advisor to The Carter Center on conflict resolution, Gaffey has investigated third world and local issues. 

In case you were unaware that it might need saving, Gaffey serves on the ad hoc committee to save the Good Friday Agreement. Deeming it necessary for future success, he calls it a pressure group.

He explained, “It’s always in peril. Although everybody signed a peace agreement, they’ve found less than half of the weapons that were being used. There are still incidents. They’re still looking for people who were never found.” 

Leaving a legacy

Gaffey plans to donate an archive of over 300 documents to The Linen Hall, the oldest library in Belfast. His records of fundraising and support include financials, what they did, who they were raising money from, who they supported as well as communications addressed by leaders of the NICRA. 

Two men standing next to a white cushioned chair at The Carter Center
Speaking at The Carter Center on civil violence in our elections. Jim Gaffey (right) with Reverend Gary Mason from Northern Ireland.

“I can’t believe the news today,” Bono first crooned in the 1980s about the heightened conflict in early 1970s Northern Ireland. Regrettably, we can look at wars going on across the globe today and say the same.

It seems as long as humankind exists, so too will conflict. The only comfort is knowing there will also always be those upholding justice and equality. If you’re lucky enough to meet one such person committed to peace, seize the occasion to hear stories of hope that can emerge from even the deepest trenches of despair. 

There you have it, Peachtree Corners! I hope you’ve enjoyed meeting our very notable neighbor Jim Gaffey as much as I have.

This article originally ran in the October/November issue of Peachtree Corners Magazine. You can read the digital edition here.

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